Gnome Shadowknights and Erudite Warriors?

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For me, I've never understood why Iksars can't be rogues. It seems fitting to me.

Everything about the Iksar is either/both(Shadow knight)about domination(Shaman/Necro) and facing your opponent head on(Warrior and monk). They would never stoop to the cowardly or spiteful ways of a rogue, as their entire existence is to instill fear and terror(Cazic Thule) in their enemies, not hide away in the shadows.

Their entire culture is built around it. Note that most, if not all, exiles and pariahs are bandits or thieves further reinforce the idea these kinds of individuals are looked down upon to the point where they're shunned and cast out by the Iksar empire. In other words, the strong survive and the weak die or are cast out.

For similar reasons I do not think you'd see an ogre rogue. Wouldn't sit well with Rallos, I think.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Nixtar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything about the Iksar is either/both(Shadow knight)about domination(Shaman/Necro) and facing your opponent head on(Warrior and monk). They would never stoop to the cowardly or spiteful ways of a rogue, as their entire existence is to instill fear and terror(Cazic Thule) in their enemies, not hide away in the shadows.

Their entire culture is built around it. Note that most, if not all, exiles and pariahs are bandits or thieves further reinforce the idea these kinds of individuals are looked down upon to the point where they're shunned and cast out by the Iksar empire. In other words, the strong survive and the weak die or are cast out.

For similar reasons I do not think you'd see an ogre rogue. Wouldn't sit well with Rallos, I think.

There are a lot of npc iksar rogues, but I guess cabalisian iksar are above that?

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a lot of npc iksar rogues, but I guess cabalisian iksar are above that?

Exactly, those who turn to rogue-like ways are cast out(the word pariah means someone who is shunned or cast out from society, for example). Then there are Iksar exiles, bandits, and marauders. The shaman epic has a mob called Iksar Manslayer which is denoted as dishonourable and having a dark soul.

So while a rogue may be able to cause terror from the shadows, the once dominant and proud Iksars of Cab simply believe it is beneath them. It is true monks have some tricks up their sleeve but ultimately it is about martial prowess and not about stabbing people in the back, and with the Necro/SK you see them coming, they destroy you over time and use fear and terror in a way you know and see who's doing it to you. A Cazic Shaman is probably more like a Defiler from EQ2 in that it focus on spiritual domination over communication.