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Old 08-22-2016, 11:17 AM
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It's more than just using worts. You'll have DPS in there with like 3900 HP buffed that'll go 100% to < 25% almost instantaneously.

Beyond that, you can't click worts when you're feared. So regardless of who has 4500+ hp, and who has 255 MR... if the RNG gods get you with fear consecutively 2-3 times you're toast.

So there you are feared & running, going lower and lower hp, unable to click worts, out of range of heals and right as you hit like 25% HP... guess what? Low hp aggro. Raid's over.

That's just the perspective from 1 of the 50+ DPS on your raid.
Yah but if you wipe to sont you can just try again, wipe 3 times that's a couple hours max, still much smaller time investment than tunare.
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Old 08-22-2016, 11:19 AM
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Yah but if you wipe to sont you can just try again, wipe 3 times that's a couple hours max, still much smaller time investment than tunare.
But the recharge cost..
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Old 08-22-2016, 11:25 AM
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But the recharge cost..
As stated in my first post: it all depends on what you think is a smaller investment: how ever many 100k to down sont in a relatively short time, or 80 people spending hours clearing trash. Plus what are recharge costs on tunare encounter and clearing growth.

Edit: the answer is probably tunare, it's just people are willing to put forth the investment for some bis loot.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:21 PM
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As stated in my first post: it all depends on what you think is a smaller investment: how ever many 100k to down sont in a relatively short time, or 80 people spending hours clearing trash. Plus what are recharge costs on tunare encounter and clearing growth.

Edit: the answer is probably tunare, it's just people are willing to put forth the investment for some bis loot.
I get what you are saying but the thing is even if you blow a bunch of consumables you can still very easily fail an encounter with Sont, repeatedly, until you can't continue. The RNG factor on his encounter is so off the wall too. Growth does take a lot of time but the clear isn't too challenging; especially as you get more familiar with the strats. Sont requires more of every person in the raid and sometimes failure is literally beyond your control. ie: People get blasted into low health as they are feared. Or all tanks get feared and you have a turn.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:57 PM
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I get what you are saying but the thing is even if you blow a bunch of consumables you can still very easily fail an encounter with Sont, repeatedly, until you can't continue. The RNG factor on his encounter is so off the wall too. Growth does take a lot of time but the clear isn't too challenging; especially as you get more familiar with the strats. Sont requires more of every person in the raid and sometimes failure is literally beyond your control. ie: People get blasted into low health as they are feared. Or all tanks get feared and you have a turn.
If Tunare dropped the same loot as Sontalak would A/A kill her?
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:06 PM
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If Tunare dropped the same loot as Sontalak would A/A kill her?
Probably not. Tunare gets killed because she has multiple BiS items. With Sontalak, you're left hoping for a Matchless/Peerless BP and that's about it.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:28 PM
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If Tunare dropped the same loot as Sontalak would A/A kill her?
The better hypothetical would be Sontalak with Tunare's loot table. Which would be fucking awesome! But yes, A/A would be all over him like white on rice if so.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:33 PM
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The better hypothetical would be Sontalak with Tunare's loot table. Which would be fucking awesome! But yes, A/A would be all over him like white on rice if so.
Yeah, but then you'd have to explain why he had those items. I mean wtf would sont have a golden braid?? It'd be a lore nightmare.
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