IS Hillary Clinton just insane?

[HeyNomad]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can respect liberals if they just change the argument to something like this.

If you are for heavy government control and intervention just be forthright about it and people will respect that. If you want to change the constitution, stand behind that.

I'm not necessarily for "heavy government control and intervention" and I definitely don't identify as a liberal. I find a lot of positions that get called "liberal" as incoherent as positions based on "freedom." I don't particularly care about the integrity of the constitution but I do care about the integrity of discussions about it, so I appreciate your point and I agree: getting lumped in with liberals would annoy me a lot less if they (assuming we're thinking of the same kinds of people) were honest with themselves and others.