UNBAN Swish!

[thufir]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA went to Phinny and seems most the Swish haters were them. I never had an issue with BDA and questioned the fervor of Swish's crusade against them, but I think he was just looking to defend the interests of smaller guilds. Whether you are with him in that crusade or not, he's always been helpful to new and existing players, giving advice on gameplay and tech, etc.

it's not just that, maskedmelon. there was the fry bread crusade. you don't mind that because you were convinced by it. baler doesn't mind that because he was convinced by that too.

but there was a time for years where every.single.thread he posted was "try red" in some way. I distinctly remember some video he posted where it was a big ol advertisement for red, even said on top "this is why people play red!!" or some bullshit, and then he disingenuously claimed he wasn't trying to advertise for red - to the point that he *deleted that caption on the video* after he got called out on it.

he has a history of trying to elude responsibility for his actions, deny that they occurred, and then flip things by being his "detractors" unfairly accusing him, while he only had the best interests of the server all along - a tactic shared by baler's defense efforts here.

if he was really interested in helping the little guy, he'd do that instead of trying to push his hobby horses.

his advice is also generally terrible, and was all the more so because he spent a lot of time giving advice about blue while not playing on it, but that's more or less besides the point.

in the end, someone who takes every opportunity to push their agenda is no better than a paid pop up advertisement, and equally annoying. I use ignore, but the damage he does to threads by people who respond to him remains.

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not just that, maskedmelon. there was the fry bread crusade. you don't mind that because you were convinced by it. baler doesn't mind that because he was convinced by that too.

but there was a time for years where every.single.thread he posted was "try red" in some way. I distinctly remember some video he posted where it was a big ol advertisement for red, even said on top "this is why people play red!!" or some bullshit, and then he disingenuously claimed he wasn't trying to advertise for red - to the point that he *deleted that caption on the video* after he got called out on it.

he has a history of trying to elude responsibility for his actions, deny that they occurred, and then flip things by being his "detractors" unfairly accusing him, while he only had the best interests of the server all along - a tactic shared by baler's defense efforts here.

if he was really interested in helping the little guy, he'd do that instead of trying to push his hobby horses.

his advice is also generally terrible, and was all the more so because he spent a lot of time giving advice about blue while not playing on it, but that's more or less besides the point.

in the end, someone who takes every opportunity to push their agenda is no better than a paid pop up advertisement, and equally annoying. I use ignore, but the damage he does to threads by people who respond to him remains.

Yeah but those annoying pop ups are sometimes funny and interesting to watch and see what happens next.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not just that, maskedmelon. there was the fry bread crusade. you don't mind that because you were convinced by it. baler doesn't mind that because he was convinced by that too.

but there was a time for years where every.single.thread he posted was "try red" in some way. I distinctly remember some video he posted where it was a big ol advertisement for red, even said on top "this is why people play red!!" or some bullshit, and then he disingenuously claimed he wasn't trying to advertise for red - to the point that he *deleted that caption on the video* after he got called out on it.

he has a history of trying to elude responsibility for his actions, deny that they occurred, and then flip things by being his "detractors" unfairly accusing him, while he only had the best interests of the server all along - a tactic shared by baler's defense efforts here.

if he was really interested in helping the little guy, he'd do that instead of trying to push his hobby horses.

his advice is also generally terrible, and was all the more so because he spent a lot of time giving advice about blue while not playing on it, but that's more or less besides the point.

in the end, someone who takes every opportunity to push their agenda is no better than a paid pop up advertisement, and equally annoying. I use ignore, but the damage he does to threads by people who respond to him remains.

I understand there are some (perhaps) people who were rubbed wrong by the try red campaign, but I don't think it wasn't some malicious thing. He found something special there and wanted to share it. I know this, because so did I thanks to him! With the negative image red had from a "colorful" community and questionable implementation.

Most people didnt care to give it a go. They had opinions they didn't care to question and just wanted to be left alone. I heartily sympathize with the latter! I tend to just skim past stuff I don't want to read, but am generally not significantly bothered by much so have it easy I guess in that regard ^^ and I ended up giving it a go and had fun. For everyone else there is always a big shiny ignore button.

Swish undeniably knew many people were annoyed simply by the reception his advertisements generally received, but he pushed on because he wanted others to be able to enjoy the same experience he'd stumbled upon. I could be wrong of course and it could all have been some self-serving delusion as you suggest, but I don't see it that way ^^

[thufir]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand there are some (perhaps) people who were rubbed wrong by the try red campaign, but I don't think it wasn't some malicious thing. He found something special there and wanted to share it. I know this, because so did I thanks to him! With the negative image red had from a "colorful" community and questionable implementation.

Most people didnt care to give it a go. They had opinions they didn't care to question and just wanted to be left alone. I heartily sympathize with the latter! I tend to just skim past stuff I don't want to read, but am generally not significantly bothered by much so have it easy I guess in that regard ^^ and I ended up giving it a go and had fun. For everyone else there is always a big shiny ignore button.

Swish undeniably knew many people were annoyed simply by the reception his advertisements generally received, but he pushed on because he wanted others to be able to enjoy the same experience he'd stumbled upon. I could be wrong of course and it could all have been some self-serving delusion as you suggest, but I don't see it that way ^^

yes, imo you are wrong. it seems clear to me he has wanted to bring down BDA and blue for almost the entirety of the last several years. he had a change of heart at one point last year where he thought doxxing everyone on blue was a bridge too far, after which he "retired".

then he came back and continued his crusade against bda and continues it despite the fact that they aren't even here any more.

I'd like to see him get over his personal issues, but he hasn't yet and I don't think it will actually happen. until then his continued presence on the forums is a net negative as far as I am concerned, for whatever my opinion is worth.

as I stated earlier, I do have him on ignore, but that only works if everyone else does too and/or won't respond to his crap. oh well, off topic shit anyway, not that this thread will last long outside of rnf.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, imo you are wrong. it seems clear to me he has wanted to bring down BDA and blue for almost the entirety of the last several years. he had a change of heart at one point last year where he thought doxxing everyone on blue was a bridge too far, after which he "retired".

then he came back and continued his crusade against bda and continues it despite the fact that they aren't even here any more.

I'd like to see him get over his personal issues, but he hasn't yet and I don't think it will actually happen. until then his continued presence on the forums is a net negative as far as I am concerned, for whatever my opinion is worth.

as I stated earlier, I do have him on ignore, but that only works if everyone else does too and/or won't respond to his crap. oh well, off topic shit anyway, not that this thread will last long outside of rnf.

u take this way too seriously homes

[thufir]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

u take this way too seriously homes

if you are still posting on the forums of a 17 year old elfsim emu you are "taking it too seriously"

some can admit this, others can't

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you are still posting on the forums of a 17 year old elfsim emu you are "taking it too seriously"

some can admit this, others can't

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[AzzarTheGod]

Can we get a green guide post in this thread?

Even a blank post with nothing in it