Star Trek - Beyond

[R Flair]

I seriously hope the new Star Trek series next year pulls way away from the Abrams motif and moves back closer to TNG/DS9/Voyager. We already know its going to be really different, but hopefully not this hokey action flick, Abrams alternate universe powered by lens flares.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously hope the new Star Trek series next year pulls way away from the Abrams motif and moves back closer to TNG/DS9/Voyager. We already know its going to be really different, but hopefully not this hokey action flick, Abrams alternate universe powered by lens flares.

im interested to see what the fuck happens with it.

Enterprise was a complete train wreck. I feel its going to be Enterprise 2.0 calling it now. Expect sex scenes again and other stuff they think will sell. Show will be off air in 1-2 seasons.

[R Flair]

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im interested to see what the fuck happens with it.

Enterprise was a complete train wreck. I feel its going to be Enterprise 2.0 calling it now. Expect sex scenes again and other stuff they think will sell. Show will be off air in 1-2 seasons.

Oddly enough, I thought enterprise season 3 and 4 (the Xindi stuff esp) were just about the best star trek ever created and on par with TNG. I know it isn't a popular opinion, but it was fantastic for the 10 of us that made it past season 1. I've rewatched the series several times and always feel the first season is definitely lacking, but after that it really wasn't as bad as people made it out to be imo.

Personally, I'd be 100% happy with another Enterprise save that first awkward season.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oddly enough, I thought enterprise season 3 and 4 (the Xindi stuff esp) were just about the best star trek ever created and on par with TNG. I know it isn't a popular opinion, but it was fantastic for the 10 of us that made it past season 1. I've rewatched the series several times and always feel the first season is definitely lacking, but after that it really wasn't as bad as people made it out to be imo.

Personally, I'd be 100% happy with another Enterprise save that first awkward season.

Interesting. An Enterprise fan, not only that, but "best star trek ever"? Are you a Next Generation guy, or a Classic Star Trek guy? Please just answer that then I will understand your sentiment a lot more.

I'd need more than just 1 voucher to go back and take a look at Enterprise though. I did quit after season 1's Fast and Furious gimmicks.

The promo package for the premier of Enterprise was enough to kill maybe all 4 seasons for me. Fast and Furious is a good way to put it.

[Nihilist_santa]

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Interesting. An Enterprise fan, not only that, but "best star trek ever"? Are you a Next Generation guy, or a Classic Star Trek guy? Please just answer that then I will understand your sentiment a lot more.

I'd need more than just 1 voucher to go back and take a look at Enterprise though. I did quit after season 1's Fast and Furious gimmicks.

The promo package for the premier of Enterprise was enough to kill maybe all 4 seasons for me. Fast and Furious is a good way to put it.

Enterprise definitely the worst series. Worst fucking theme song ever. Archer is just a fucking terrible captain. so indecisive and weak. Other times he acts like a fucking brute. I dont think they knew what they wanted to do with him. That said the series really picks up with the Xindi arc and the last season was pretty good. Good enough that I dont think they should have canceled. Gets into mirror universe stuff and really starts to feel like its tying the other series together some.

Series was canceled because at one time there were like 3 Trek series on plus shit in syndication. It was just over saturated but now is a good time to bring it back. That fan made flick that Paramount shutdown was pretty awesome and would have been a great place for a series or something to come from.

ETA: Recently started watching the bluray of TNG. Forgot how terrible the first season was. Some shit production values and straight up TOS cheesiness (I actually like that though).

[R Flair]

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That said the series really picks up with the Xindi arc and the last season was pretty good. Good enough that I dont think they should have canceled. Gets into mirror universe stuff and really starts to feel like its tying the other series together some.

Yep, they really did pull it together. 3 was good, 4 was excellent. I also really liked how they explained a lot of star trek lore and inconsistencies like the genetic wars (dr sung etc) and why klingons looked like humans in TOS. That stuff was really cool.

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ETA: Recently started watching the bluray of TNG. Forgot how terrible the first season was. Some shit production values and straight up TOS cheesiness (I actually like that though).

Yep. TNG season 1 doesn't pick up till closer to the end. First episodes esp are really cheesy. Yet it went on and people bashed Enterprise till it was cancelled. Really a shame imo.

[Nihilist_santa]

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Yep, they really did pull it together. 3 was good, 4 was excellent. I also really liked how they explained a lot of star trek lore and inconsistencies like the clone wars and why klingons looked like humans in TOS. That stuff was really cool.



Yep. TNG season 1 doesn't pick up till closer to the end. First episodes esp are really cheesy. Yet it went on and people bashed Enterprise till it was cancelled. Really a shame imo.

Also Jeffery Combs fucking nailed the Andorians and really fleshed them out (one of my favorite species in Trek). The Time War had potential but was really half assed.