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[Tecmos Deception]

It was written to ensure the populace would be a deterrent to out-of-line government. What use would outdated weapons be towards that?

And remember that the bill of rights just acknowledges inherent rights, it doesn't grant rights. Humans have an inherent right to be able to defend themselves. I think owning and carrying small arms, within reason (violent felons don't get guns, no one needs grenade launchers, stuff like thst), is a good part of that.

Even the universal declaration of human rights acknowledges an inherent right to life, liberty, and security of person. But it's clear reality that no gov can provide security of person to every individual, so they are entitled to the ability to pursue that themselves to the extent it doesn't infringe on others' rights.

What good would a declaration of rights be without any individual capacity to protect against infringement upon them by evil men?

[Raev]

Enough with the '2nd amendment protects nuclear weapons'. The US Constitution was written in 1790 or so. When they wrote 'arms', they meant firearms: pistols and rifles. These can be used defensively, to protect oneself, one's family, and one's property from criminals. A nuclear weapon does not work on a personal scale.

Originally Posted by Jarnauga

I have literally 4 times more chances to get killed in the usa than in france.

Here are some stats for you, courtesy of a liberal trying to bash Trump who is apparently unaware that he is making Trump's point and nationmaster.

French are killed at a rate of 10.5 per million people. US Whites are killed at a rate of 11.9 per million people - nearly identical. However, US Blacks are killed at a rate of 56 per million people. In other words, despite owning most of the firearms in the country American white people kill each other at basically the same rate as the French. If you want to reduce crimes, you should disarm the Blacks.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enough with the '2nd amendment protects nuclear weapons'. The US Constitution was written in 1790 or so. When they wrote 'arms', they meant firearms: pistols and rifles. These can be used defensively, to protect oneself, one's family, and one's property from criminals. A nuclear weapon does not work on a personal scale.



Here are some stats for you, courtesy of a liberal trying to bash Trump who is apparently unaware that he is making Trump's point and nationmaster.

French are killed at a rate of 10.5 per million people. US Whites are killed at a rate of 11.9 per million people - nearly identical. However, US Blacks are killed at a rate of 56 per million people. In other words, despite owning most of the firearms in the country American white people kill each other at basically the same rate as the French. If you want to reduce crimes, you should disarm the Blacks.

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ETA: Honestly though they wont respect the laws as shown above so disarming wont work. There is only one solution removal by force.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

French are killed at a rate of 10.5 per million people. US Whites are killed at a rate of 11.9 per million people - nearly identical. However, US Blacks are killed at a rate of 56 per million people. In other words, despite owning most of the firearms in the country American white people kill each other at basically the same rate as the French. If you want to reduce crimes, you should disarm the Blacks.

Though to be more fair, I'm pretty sure it's a stronger correlation with socioeconomic status instead of "race."

[fash]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Though to be more fair, I'm pretty sure it's a stronger correlation with socioeconomic status instead of "race."

Crime has a higher correlation with divorce rate than with poverty.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crime has a higher correlation with divorce rate than with poverty.

We haven't been talking about all crime though, just gun violence (or even just gun homicides).

[fash]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We haven't been talking about all crime though, just gun violence (or even just gun homicides).

What I said applies to violent crime, specifically, but yes, it's more than just violent crime involving firearms. (It applies to property crime as well fyi.)

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crime has a higher correlation with divorce rate than with poverty.

Yep, it's a breakdown of civilized society, the annihilation of the family structure, by the war on America and the Western world by the leftists. That's my take on it anyway, which is btw the correct view [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Of course the "leftists" covers more than "the left", some center and right are just as much into it as any foaming raving leftist communist lunatic is.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here are some stats for you, courtesy of a liberal trying to bash Trump who is apparently unaware that he is making Trump's point and nationmaster.

French are killed at a rate of 10.5 per million people. US Whites are killed at a rate of 11.9 per million people - nearly identical. However, US Blacks are killed at a rate of 56 per million people. In other words, despite owning most of the firearms in the country American white people kill each other at basically the same rate as the French. If you want to reduce crimes, you should disarm the Blacks.

racial laws then ? it's funny how important is the 2nd amendment is so important to you all but the rest is #YOLO-dontcare

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Should i quote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights ..? Our greatest gift to the world.

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All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Go ahead, do it. Shit on the foundation of Civilization if you want. I dare you. I fucking double-dare you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nihilist_santa]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Then they went and fucked their slaves and killed Indians and took their lands. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]