Is leapfrogging a group to a camp allowed?

[Baler]

I have spent an extreme amount of time in Sol B in my years play P99. Days of real life time at efreeti camp during low pop, high pop, exp weekends, etc.

You need to be able to push into efreeti camp and hold it. I've done it solo, duo and in a full party. Not once has anyone ever tried to take it from me/us.
If you're pulling them across the lilly pads at all you're technically not in efreeti camp. If you can keep all the mobs down in efreeti camp then you are technically camping it.

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If you're keeping a majority of the mobs down very shortly after they pop, you're inside efreeti camp and some team of knobs comes along and tries to contest you for the camp. Then you have a petition on your hands. Petition in game. Take screenshots or record video. Make sure your log file is on. If there is no response in game. Petition on the forums with all your proof. Never post about a petition or incident outside the petition forums.

It's rare that you'd have to make a petition at efreeti camp unless you're not camping it properly. Nothing worse then a half ass cleared camp.
Can duo it with monk+shm, eyes closed auto running around the lava pit. While keeping all spawns down.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're keeping a majority of the mobs down very shortly after they pop, you're inside efreeti camp and some team of knobs comes along and tries to contest you for the camp. Then you have a petition on your hands. Petition in game. Take screenshots or record video. Make sure your log file is on. If there is no response in game. Petition on the forums with all your proof. Never post about a petition or incident outside the petition forums.

It's rare that you'd have to make a petition at efreeti camp unless you're not camping it properly. Nothing worse then a half ass cleared camp.

I feel bad for the guides and/or GM/devs that have to deal with petitions like this. End the petitionQuest on this stuff, not like someone ninjalooted and logged out ripped you off on a transfer. Let them tackle the big fish. Name and shame on boards should be enough.

[maskedmelon]

Sucks that you lost, but until you are at the camp and clearing it, it's not yours :/ I've had groups do this to me and my groups while we were on our way to a camp before and wasn't happy, but rules are rules and the solution is simple: be better/faster next time ^^ The best is when your group wipes and you get back to find another group waiting for your repops while you are still trying to get your cleric rezzed -.-* Same solution here though too ^^

[joppykid]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel bad for the guides and/or GM/devs that have to deal with petitions like this. End the petitionQuest on this stuff, not like someone ninjalooted and logged out ripped you off on a transfer. Let them tackle the big fish. Name and shame on boards should be enough.

Interesting that you think only issues pertaining to loot are important. I think this is absolutely worth a petition. If the GM's deem it not important then they can choose not to intervene.

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by joppykid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting that you think only issues pertaining to loot are important. I think this is absolutely worth a petition. If the GM's deem it not important then they can choose not to intervene.

I don't know if this is worth a petition or not but I find it interesting that people call this fair game for a group to leap frog a group that has claimed an open camp and is actively clearing to said camp. It doesn't seem as simple as "clear faster" because the only reason the leap frogging group can "clear faster" is because the way has been cleared by the first group.

Even with that in mind it still might just be a matter of tough shit..people are assholes.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know if this is worth a petition or not but I find it interesting that people call this fair game for a group to leap frog a group that has claimed an open camp and is actively clearing to said camp. It doesn't seem as simple as "clear faster" because the only reason the leap frogging group can "clear faster" is because the way has been cleared by the first group.

Even with that in mind it still might just be a matter of tough shit..people are assholes.

In EQ its easy. You cant call something as camped if your not at the camp.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by joppykid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting that you think only issues pertaining to loot are important. I think this is absolutely worth a petition. If the GM's deem it not important then they can choose not to intervene.

They were just too examples that involved loot, if someone trained mobs on you intentionally to wipe you and take the camp then I'd consider that a petition. Leapfrogging to a camp is an asshole move, but feel the players can work it out.

Personally if someone else 'took' the camp because we cleared the 30 mobs blocking the camp so they could run in, I just wouldn't leave. They know what they did was wrong and would react the same way if the role was reversed, despite what LawyerQuesting would occur.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're keeping a majority of the mobs down very shortly after they pop, you're inside efreeti camp and some team of knobs comes along and tries to contest you for the camp. Then you have a petition on your hands. Petition in game. Take screenshots or record video. Make sure your log file is on. If there is no response in game. Petition on the forums with all your proof. Never post about a petition or incident outside the petition forums.

It's rare that you'd have to make a petition at efreeti camp unless you're not camping it properly. Nothing worse then a half ass cleared camp.
Can duo it with monk+shm, eyes closed auto running around the lava pit. While keeping all spawns down.

You seem to think that keeping all the spawns down makes any difference at all. There's only one mob that matters in that camp.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to think that keeping all the spawns down makes any difference at all. There's only one mob that matters in that camp.

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[Freakish]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to think that keeping all the spawns down makes any difference at all. There's only one mob that matters in that camp.

Efreeti is half of the reason people do that camp. It's also close to the best exp you can find in game and I would take an efreeti that had named claimed over 80% of any kunark exp spots.