Most Dominant Guild Ever? VOTE

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please point out where I'm wrong.. if you can? Like i did. Also, hide behind assumed "spin".

Well, first you show your bias by claiming IB dominated stale classic content, when in fact they dominated all classic content, even when it was fresh. Note, I was in DA at this point, so I have no reason to defend IB since they were dominating my guild (we were competitive, but IB was clear #1).

But mostly we just disagree on what constitutes dominance. I think the fact that IB and their offshoots dominated the vast majority of content (even if I concede VP) shows dominance more than being able to hold out until the number #1 group leaves and you assume the top spot. Literally the only period TMO won was late kunark (and I suppose arguably VP), where as IB had classic, sky (minus EoV), early Kunark, and Velious considering rampage was literally rebranded IB with Hoku at the helm. Seems pretty clear to me.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, first you show your bias by claiming IB dominated stale classic content, when in fact they dominated all classic content, even when it was fresh. Note, I was in DA at this point, so I have no reason to defend IB since they were dominating my guild (we were competitive, but IB was clear #1).

But mostly we just disagree on what constitutes dominance. I think the fact that IB and their offshoots dominated the vast majority of content (even if I concede VP) shows dominance more than being able to hold out until the number #1 group leaves and you assume the top spot. Literally the only period TMO won was late kunark (and I suppose arguably VP), where as IB had classic, sky (minus EoV), early Kunark, and Velious considering rampage was literally rebranded IB with Hoku at the helm. Seems pretty clear to me.

... No. I said it was stale classic content...to illustrate a point when you took the bait. Classic was no more stale than Early Kunark. IB/Tr fled the server shortly after VP was released. Epics weren't even out that long yet. IB had what a handful of PD robes? If that.


I think what shows dominance is being able to dominant content without your GM interference. TMO won Mid Kunark too. The only part IB was winning was Kunark up to maybe a month or two before VP. It's cute to see you claiming SKy has some kind of domination to pad your states. FE did that too. Loser mentality.


Kunark was out for how many years? Yet you claim IB dominated most of it? Dumb

Whatever you need to tell yourself at night so you sleep well I guess. Not even posting VP stats here because that's even more skewed to TMO.



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[Fountree]

TMO obvs

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Loke

early Kunark

Originally Posted by Alarti

most of it (Kunark)

And this is why you get accused of spin. I never claimed IB dominated most of Kunark, in fact I straight up admitted TMO dominated a huge portion of it. I'm simply pointing out IB dominated all fresh content with the possible exception of VP, which is what most competitive people actually care about. TMO never dominated new content. Not Kunark, not velious, and VP is debatable.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trakanon
Wins: 200 Losses: 54

Cazic Thule
Wins: 105 Losses: 13

Dracoliche
Wins: 210 Losses: 52

Lady Vox
Wins: 84 Losses: 13

Gorenaire
Wins: 84 Losses: 15

Talendor
Wins: 83 Losses: 19

Lord Nagafen
Wins: 76 Losses: 15

Innoruuk
Wins: 79 Losses: 17

Severilous
Wins: 72 Losses: 24

Faydedar
Wins: 62 Losses: 23

Venril Sathir
Wins: 82 Losses: 36

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