2 Fungi wins in a row, now what?

[skorge]

Originally Posted by -TK- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call bullshit on this subjective and biased assertion, bruh. It wasn't that way all of the time, and I rarely experienced what you described during classic on live (started pre-Kunark). It may have been that way sometimes with guildies and friends, but your feel-good sense of nostalgia blinds you to the possibility that your sole remembered experience might not represent reality. The problem is there is a heavy dose of victim mentality around here laced with a cut of bitter-bitch syndrome.

He was part of a cash camp PUG and everyone was there for the same reason. It really makes absolutely no difference if he would have left and another player came in and won. None. The others still lost. We all roll the same virtual dice with the same odds. Just because the dude hit a lucky streak the losers try to demonize him? Okay... Thinking that the other people playing an online video game - having different backgrounds, cultures, and experiences - should be bound to your sense of moral action and ideology is purely naive and arrogant.

This whole situation is why Nilbog has made clear that this server is meant to replicate Everquest's classic mechanics. Classic experiences are wildly subjective. And if you think the server being restarted is going to change any of this, you'll be very disappointed. It will probably only exacerbate the situation when you have 1000+ (perhaps vastly more) people vying for classic camps/items.

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

[Swish]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

You sold Skorge when it was legal here didn't you and rerolled with the plat? Is that classic? Or did the original owner hand over the forum account info and this is the recipient? Is that classic? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sold Skorge when it was legal here didn't you and rerolled with the plat? Is that classic? Or did the original owner hand over the forum account info and this is the recipient? Is that classic? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was LEGAL to do this actually at one point before they modified their rules, believe it or not. I sold an account 100% legit on eBay back in the day for $1700 US. This was in 1999/2000 era.

[100percentanon]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was LEGAL to do this actually at one point before they modified their rules, believe it or not. I sold an account 100% legit on eBay back in the day for $1700 US. This was in 1999/2000 era.

Was it within the rules to RMT an acount on live? I remember people being banned for it.

[-TK-]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

I don't see anything that you quoted that indicates anything about the community and their expected behavior or of this being a "TRUE" classic server. In fact, the devs have long said not everything will be the same; sometimes by design. I actually see specifically sited points on mechanics and technical game aspects like the 'look and feel of the old interface' in your quote. You're still stuck on your perceived classic experience as being the de facto experience everyone else should be having or desire to have. This server is undoubtedly the closest thing to classic out there and rings true to a lot of what the classic experience was to a lot of people. Your idealized experience based on your sense of morality is not what this server is or is even expected to be by, what I think, is the majority that still play here. Many of us (again, 1000+) are still content with what this server has to offer. Not because it ever offered a "TRUE" classic server, but because, like the message you quoted said, this is 'the best and most popular classic Everquest experience.'

Passing on the second fungi is fine if you feel so inclined to do so, and I'm sure it would make you feel noble, but to think that an entire community is falling apart or should be condemned for not doing so only shows your ignorance and inflated sense of self. Putting /thread at the end of your poorly made point doesn't help either. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[skorge]

Originally Posted by -TK- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Passing on the second fungi is fine if you feel so inclined to do so, and I'm sure it would make you feel noble, but to think that an entire community is falling apart or should be condemned for not doing so only shows your ignorance and inflated sense of self. Putting /thread at the end of your poorly made point doesn't help either. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lots of Donald Trumps up in here I see. I never said the community was falling apart or should be condemned. I just said it's not a "classic" like community anymore like it was in 2009-2012 ish. This is my opinion.

Kunark really saturated the market with high end items, creating a non classic economy, leading to a non classic community IMO. I won't really go into but simply put: NOTHING was done to make up for the fact Kunark ran here for over 3-4 years before Velious.

I applaud the staff of P99 for doing such an amazing job with the server! It really is the closest anyone can get to the real eq experience and back in 2009-2012 it was even closer! Now that the devs have worked most of the bugs out I strongly feel that a new server would be huge.

[-TK-]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not how it used to be bruh and def not how it was on a real classic server. Lots of greed floating around out there it seems like. Back then, you rolled once you got yours and then you didn't roll on it until you came back with a completely different group the next day. This way the other 5 people in your group got a higher chance to win one.

It must suck if this is the way it is now on P99. Can't wait until they wipe it clean. It WILL happen. Every server dies. We need a fresh start. P99 needs to follow the right timeline on it's next go.

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said the community was falling apart or should be condemned.

The wording of your post after giving an example of how fair and just things were in your memory during classic on live sure insinuated it; as if things are so bad now that there is no hope for the community/server.

Thinking a server restart is the panacea for the current server issues (as can be deduced by your previous posts) and that it would make some large portion of the community all of a sudden more altruistic in PUG's is a pipe-dream. A restart now, with more seasoned players than when we started on this server with low or sub 100's population, will not be the moral utopia some seem to envision. History will repeat itself. People that don't have jobs now, will still be here and be able to camp legacy items and cash camps nearly 24/7 like they do now. What's worse is that they will be more concentrated with less content. RMT opportunity for the sellers will be ripe in a fresh community, and the server will be very crowded. You will still be playing with the exact same people that you are playing with now on P99, and maybe even a few more. Why would you think the community would act or evolve (devolve, perhaps, in your opinion) into anything different on a fresh server? It may even exacerbate the 'greed' situation because people will actually know when the next expansion is expected and be more motivated to gear up before it drops. I'm not saying there wouldn't be lots of fun to be had and that a new server isn't something to look forward to, but it's better to be realistic about your expectations. I think, like many that are so eager for the fresh server, you'll be right back here complaining within the first month because it isn't what you thought it should be. With that said, the devs have said they would like to create custom content on P99, and being that dev/GM server involvement here may be at an all time low, I don't see P99 dying or a fresh server happening anytime soon (Discord anyone?).

As for the Donald Trump comment, that's lost on me if it was intended to insult me. I didn't propose to bar anyone from playing on P99, I haven't insulted any women in my posts, I haven't made any unsupported and outlandish claims, and I still have all of my real hair. I am working on achieving a billion dollar net worth, but that may still be some years away.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

Lol what? You wrote a whole bunch and I was looking for you to make your point but you never did. Where in that quote does it indicate anything you're talking about? I also love how you ended it by proudly/arrogantly proclaiming that if majority would take the second fungi that it proves p99 isn't a 'true' classic server. Haha what? How does (continuing) to roll for an item have anything to do with true classic? Like, I don't even see the relation between the two. Are you trying to say people don't roll for items in true classic? I really honestly don't understand your line of thinking, I'm not being sarcastic. You should check your logic dude.