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[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure open racism became politically dangerous thanks to the black vote. The question originally was which party do white racists support. At least regarding racism.
However, there was plenty of subtext regarding pro-segregation etc. Goldwater, Wallace etc.

But to your point this is why semantics matter. Yay the republicans had Lincoln, and originally Teddy Roosevelt and they abolished slavery... however its just a party. The ideas that represented those presidents and actions are liberal. Which I don't think most would call the republican party today.

People get tied up in red vs blue and they lose sight of the truth. Santa is a prime example.

You must realize that while maybe accurate, your classical view of liberalism differs markedly from contemporary American liberalism. I don't think most people understand the differences enough to engage you in any meaningful way.

How about we discuss specific issues and the merits of each?

[maskedmelon]

I should add that I say that because I agree with your point on semantics and ideology. I just don't think anything will come of the discussion as long as it remains so broad ^^

Ideology is useful, because it allows is to save time by not thinking about specific topics, but detest it for that very reason.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must realize that while maybe accurate, your classical view of liberalism differs markedly from contemporary American liberalism. I don't think most people understand the differences enough to engage you in any meaningful way.

How about we discuss specific issues and the merits of each?

Its not classical... if it still exists in the rest of the world. The word has been re-labeled because Neolib is a loaded term. Basically, word reprogramming so they can shift the inherent meaning of the word. Makes it easier to get votes while not representing what you should stand for. When someone calls Hillary Clinton a liberal... it just shows they repeat the media and have no understanding of her voting history or past actions. Hillary is hard right.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its not classical... if it still exists in the rest of the world. The word has been re-labeled because Neolib is a loaded term. Basically, word reprogramming so they can shift the inherent meaning of the word. Makes it easier to get votes while not representing what you should stand for. When someone calls Hillary Clinton a liberal... it just shows they repeat the media and have no understanding of her voting history or past actions. Hillary is hard right.

extremely good point

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its not classical... if it still exists in the rest of the world. The word has been re-labeled because Neolib is a loaded term. Basically, word reprogramming so they can shift the inherent meaning of the word. Makes it easier to get votes while not representing what you should stand for. When someone calls Hillary Clinton a liberal... it just shows they repeat the media and have no understanding of her voting history or past actions. Hillary is hard right.

Which party represents american liberalism? Which party will American liberals vote for? Which party does BLM and groups like La Raza support? You can use your doublespeak bullshit all you want man to try to distance yourself but we see it for what it is. Here is a "fact" from Wikipedia since you invited me to use that source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party

You see its a two party system in America. You didnt have to come in here and devote so many pages to just say "Those guys dont represent my views" but I dont think thats the case or you wouldnt get so butthurt. I think they just make you and your party look bad and this is just typical leftist(see you dont have to get your panties in a bunch) spin.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its not classical... if it still exists in the rest of the world. The word has been re-labeled because Neolib is a loaded term. Basically, word reprogramming so they can shift the inherent meaning of the word. Makes it easier to get votes while not representing what you should stand for. When someone calls Hillary Clinton a liberal... it just shows they repeat the media and have no understanding of her voting history or past actions. Hillary is hard right.

Oh, stop being a contrarian! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Classical doesn't mean extinct (can debate it if you like). We can call it whatever you like though. Call it True Liberalism or the Enlightend Path if you like. The point is remains that your use of the word contrasts with conventional usage (especially when you label Hillary as [i[hard[/i] right. Right now your argument is like insisting faggot isn't a slur for a gay person or a disparaging label for a male you don't like. It's really a bundle if sticks! You guys don't know what you are talking about!

Labeling Hillary hard right seems to originate with restricting left-right with "economic powers" as you previously indicated. Right or wrong, people regularly associate right with limited government and left with expansive government. Hillary leans left in that regard. If you are making the case that she leans right because she is a corporatist and therefore I'm support of an unrestricted market, I won't disagree in that context. However if we accept that that makes her right leaning we would have to associate all of her social policy as authoritarian, which I think makes sense also. So Hillary is a hard-right authoritarian?

Am I following you, or are you just trolling?



On a side note it is disturbing that autocorrect on my iPhone corrected a typo of Hillary to chill art....

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, stop being a contrarian! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Classical doesn't mean extinct (can debate it if you like). We can call it whatever you like though. Call it True Liberalism or the Enlightend Path if you like. The point is remains that your use of the word contrasts with conventional usage (especially when you label Hillary as [i[hard[/i] right. Right now your argument is like insisting faggot isn't a slur for a gay person or a disparaging label for a male you don't like. It's really a bundle if sticks! You guys don't know what you are talking about!

Labeling Hillary hard right seems to originate with restricting left-right with "economic powers" as you previously indicated. Right or wrong, people regularly associate right with limited government and left with expansive government. Hillary leans left in that regard. If you are making the case that she leans right because she is a corporatist and therefore I'm support of an unrestricted market, I won't disagree in that context. However if we accept that that makes her right leaning we would have to associate all of her social policy as authoritarian, which I think makes sense also. So Hillary is a hard-right authoritarian?

Am I following you, or are you just trolling?



On a side note it is disturbing that autocorrect on my iPhone corrected a typo of Hillary to chill art....

Just because many american's have lost the meaning of the words doesn't mean they shouldn't be used properly. How else will people be able to critically think if they don't learn?

Yes Hillary is a Hard right authoritarian... she's a good deal less authoritarian than Trump but only slightly less conservative. She's a much more libertarian candidate than Trump, much closer to Ron Paul's voting history than any of the other republican candidates.
Which is shocking to many because everyone paints the clintons with a liberal hero's brush.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because many american's have lost the meaning of the words doesn't mean they shouldn't be used properly. How else will people be able to critically think if they don't learn?

Yes Hillary is a Hard right authoritarian... she's a good deal less authoritarian than Trump but only slightly less conservative. She's a much more libertarian candidate than Trump, much closer to Ron Paul's voting history than any of the other republican candidates.
Which is shocking to many because everyone paints the clintons with a liberal hero's brush.

You are living in a fucking fantasy. Blacks being anti-white doesnt = racism to Allaharti. Hillary Clinton is a right wing authoritarian. I think we have heard just about enough from you dude. Those two positions make you seem more looney than Alex Jones and I doubt anyone but pokesan will take you seriously from here on out. Go masturbate about words to some other people that want to fall for your line of shit.

You have some fucking nerve talking about tangents. I said it before but you are a fucking narcissist. Every single thread you post in turns into being about you dude by your own design.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those two positions make you seem more looney than Alex Jones and I doubt anyone but pokesan will take you seriously from here on out.

And I gotta say, that's pretty nuts. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I gotta say, that's pretty nuts. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yaass queen