BLM Terrorist Charged With Felony Lynching

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My facts got deleted once a thread was deleted. The burden of proof is on the person making assertions. Do you even logic?(Its a rhetorical question I know you don't)



He is also an actor and is a remnant from when alot of TMO members put Oceans 11 characters in their avatars. I don't support Clooney's politics. Sorry if its hard for you to separate two distinct concepts.



I used to live in Florida.. it didn't make me a conservative. I used to live in Mississippi It didn't make me a conservative. Also, Seattle is awesome, have you ever been?

I saw your deleted comments. There were no facts there you don't even source your information. Do you even debate bro? Also you made the claim that Daywolf was wrong yet you supplied no evidence just your word. The burden of proof would then be on you. You know to back up your claim that he is wrong and that the democrats after 100 years of oppressing minorities suddenly did a magic flip. The magic flip is your claim so supply some proof.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I saw your deleted comments. There were no facts there you don't even source your information. Do you even debate bro? Also you made the claim that Daywolf was wrong yet you supplied no evidence just your word. The burden of proof would then be on you. You know to back up your claim that he is wrong and that the democrats after 100 years of oppressing minorities suddenly did a magic flip. The magic flip is your claim so supply some proof.

Information was source and the information was factual. Even if you stamp your feet really loud!.

Who said the Parties has a magic flip? It was a political realignment that happened over several decades.

1896: William Jennings Bryan integrated the Populist party into the democratic party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People...United_States)
The populist party was left-wing so the Democratic party which was then very right-wing picked up some lefties.

1912: Teddy Roosevelt lost the nomination of the Republican Party which was more left-wing (and mostly a reintegration of the old Whig party) at the time so he ran for president under the Progressive Party. Which weakens the loyalty of liberal republicans to their party.

1932: FDR runs as a democrat after adopting most of the Progressive party's platform.
Southern whites have supported the democratic party since the Civil War.

1964: LBJ Incorporates civil rights as a democratic party platform. Effectively switching the southern white vote in the future to the Republican party. You'll notice people likw George Wallace a long time segregationist running as an independent in '68. Then renouncing segregation to rejoin the democratic part later on. Many liberal politicians also switched from the Republican tickets to the democratic ticket in future elections.

Republicans used to be about big government, government responsibility to social programs etc. Democrats were conservatives, states rights, limited government.

There were still liberals identifying as repubs and conservatives identifying as democrats but they were minorities...until around 2000.

Ideology switched.


Sources for you Santa even though I know you won't read them. It's easier to just deny right?

Byron E. Shafer and Richard Johnston, The End of Southern Exceptionalism: Class, Race, and Partisan Change in the Postwar South (2009) p 173-4

K.C. MacKay, The Progressive Movement of 1924. New York: Columbia University Press, 1947.

Hart, Jeffrey (2006-02-09). The Making of the American Conservative Mind (television). Hanover, New Hampshire: C-SPAN.

Roger Chapman, Culture Wars: An Encyclopedia (2010) vol 1 Page 136

Alabama Governor George Wallace, gubernatorial history". Archives.state.al.us.

Carter, Dan T. (1995). The Politics of Rage: George Wallace, the Origins of the New Conservatism, and the Transformation of American Politics. New York: Simon & Schuster. p. 468.

McMillan, Joseph (October 1, 2010), Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 26th and 32nd Presidents of the United States, American Heraldry Society
Jump up ^ Morris 1979, p. 3.

Hart, Albert B.; Ferleger, Herbert R (1989). "Theodore Roosevelt Cyclopedia" (CD-ROM). Theodore Roosevelt Association. pp. 534–35.

https://books.google.com/books?id=bJ...page&q&f=false


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...ty_Act_of_1965

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Information was source and the information was factual. Even if you stamp your feet really loud!.

Who said the Parties has a magic flip? It was a political realignment that happened over several decades.

1896: William Jennings Bryan integrated the Populist party into the democratic party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People...United_States)
The populist party was left-wing so the Democratic party which was then very right-wing picked up some lefties.

1912: Teddy Roosevelt lost the nomination of the Republican Party which was more left-wing (and mostly a reintegration of the old Whig party) at the time so he ran for president under the Progressive Party. Which weakens the loyalty of liberal republicans to their party.

1932: FDR runs as a democrat after adopting most of the Progressive party's platform.
Southern whites have supported the democratic party since the Civil War.

1964: LBJ Incorporates civil rights as a democratic party platform. Effectively switching the southern white vote in the future to the Republican party. You'll notice people likw George Wallace a long time segregationist running as an independent in '68. Then renouncing segregation to rejoin the democratic part later on. Many liberal politicians also switched from the Republican tickets to the democratic ticket in future elections.

Republicans used to be about big government, government responsibility to social programs etc. Democrats were conservatives, states rights, limited government.

There were still liberals identifying as repubs and conservatives identifying as democrats but they were minorities...until around 2000.

Ideology switched.


Sources for you Santa even though I know you won't read them. It's easier to just deny right?

Byron E. Shafer and Richard Johnston, The End of Southern Exceptionalism: Class, Race, and Partisan Change in the Postwar South (2009) p 173-4

K.C. MacKay, The Progressive Movement of 1924. New York: Columbia University Press, 1947.

Hart, Jeffrey (2006-02-09). The Making of the American Conservative Mind (television). Hanover, New Hampshire: C-SPAN.

Roger Chapman, Culture Wars: An Encyclopedia (2010) vol 1 Page 136

Alabama Governor George Wallace, gubernatorial history". Archives.state.al.us.

Carter, Dan T. (1995). The Politics of Rage: George Wallace, the Origins of the New Conservatism, and the Transformation of American Politics. New York: Simon & Schuster. p. 468.

McMillan, Joseph (October 1, 2010), Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 26th and 32nd Presidents of the United States, American Heraldry Society
Jump up ^ Morris 1979, p. 3.

Hart, Albert B.; Ferleger, Herbert R (1989). "Theodore Roosevelt Cyclopedia" (CD-ROM). Theodore Roosevelt Association. pp. 534–35.

https://books.google.com/books?id=bJ...page&q&f=false


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...ty_Act_of_1965

Good post. Lots of new information for me and I'll take your word on all of it.

That said, I do not think the conclusion that "ideologies switched" is necessarily accurate. While some or even most components may have swapped, the openly racist platform of past Democratic Party was not adopted by the Republican Party. The southern democrat voter shift can most reasonably be explained as a product of contempt for the passage of the civil rights act, inaccurately credited to the Democratic Party.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post. Lots of new information for me and I'll take your word on all of it.

That said, I do not think the conclusion that "ideologies switched" is necessarily accurate. While some or even most components may have swapped, the openly racist platform of past Democratic Party was not adopted by the Republican Party. The southern democrat voter shift can most reasonably be explained as a product of contempt for the passage of the civil rights act, inaccurately credited to the Democratic Party.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182

gadzooks!

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182

gadzooks!

What are you pointing out? That not only 3x as many democrats opposed the bill as republicans, but also that they opposed it by a much larger percentage than republicans?

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you pointing out? That not only 3x as many democrats opposed the bill as republicans, but also that they opposed it by a much larger percentage than republicans?

look in the yeas column

which number is bigger?

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

look in the yeas column

which number is bigger?

You do realize each party doesn't get an equal number of seats correct?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

look in the yeas column

which number is bigger?

You don't look at unit prices when you shop for groceries, do you?

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182

gadzooks!

The topic is prominent leader of racist terrorist organization tied to democrat party in the current year also first black convicted of lynching.

Please keep up.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good post. Lots of new information for me and I'll take your word on all of it.

That said, I do not think the conclusion that "ideologies switched" is necessarily accurate. While some or even most components may have swapped, the openly racist platform of past Democratic Party was not adopted by the Republican Party. The southern democrat voter shift can most reasonably be explained as a product of contempt for the passage of the civil rights act, inaccurately credited to the Democratic Party.

Sure open racism became politically dangerous thanks to the black vote. The question originally was which party do white racists support. At least regarding racism.
However, there was plenty of subtext regarding pro-segregation etc. Goldwater, Wallace etc.

But to your point this is why semantics matter. Yay the republicans had Lincoln, and originally Teddy Roosevelt and they abolished slavery... however its just a party. The ideas that represented those presidents and actions are liberal. Which I don't think most would call the republican party today.

People get tied up in red vs blue and they lose sight of the truth. Santa is a prime example.