Server rules on ancient cyclops spawn in OOT

[MiRo2]

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NN for arguments by analogy, those are weak, and we are talking about one thing and not that other thing you just made up.

I'm sorry, let me try again.

Camper A, "Hey Camper C, come join my group at AC in OoT!" or "/gu I'm about to log off, anyone want to take over my camp?"
Camper C, "Sure!"
Camper A, "Welp time for me log off, good luck with AC Camper C!"
Camper B, "Hey, I was next on the list!"
Camper C, "What list?"
Camper B, "/petition dey took my merb!"

Add as much or as little time between lines as you feel is necessary.



My point is unchanged. Player agreements and server norms are player enforced. Sever Staff decisions are made on a case by case basis on all the factors involved; player statements/opinions/observations made from those decisions are not server rules.

If the server norm is a running list for AC:OoT, then its player enforced. Why is attempting to call the "ban hammer" rather than let the community(Red:PvP, Blue:Reputation) deal with it the first option?

[Skinned]

Originally Posted by MiRo2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry, let me try again.

Camper A, "Hey Camper C, come join my group at AC in OoT!" or "/gu I'm about to log off, anyone want to take over my camp?"
Camper C, "Sure!"
Camper A, "Welp time for me log off, good luck with AC Camper C!"
Camper B, "Hey, I was next on the list!"
Camper C, "What list?"
Camper B, "/petition dey took my merb!"

Add as much or as little time between lines as you feel is necessary.



My point is unchanged. Player agreements and server norms are player enforced. Sever Staff decisions are made on a case by case basis on all the factors involved; player statements/opinions/observations made from those decisions are not server rules.

If the server norm is a running list for AC:OoT, then its player enforced. Why is attempting to call the "ban hammer" rather than let the community(Red:PvP, Blue:Reputation) deal with it the first option?

I'm not thinking about a "list" as much as somebody sitting there in line. The situation I'm referring to is player A is camping AC. Player B is sitting there waiting in line, possibly for hours. Person A gets the Ring of the Ancients on the spawn, and artificially holds up the progression of the camp for player C, who hasn't even been there, because he is friends with player A, which is more opposition to nepotism trumping fair play over not honoring an imaginary list.

If player B is on some sort of "list" like "send me a tell when you're done with this camp" and not physically (pixelly) there, then call a friend, there is no obligation to pass the word on that the camp is open to anybody, with that I agree.

I believe it is in the spirit of the First Come First Serve rule of classic EQ that the next person in line gets the camp, because he is there first.

Now if Player A is killing the AC, and does not agree to pass the camp on to Player B, and Player C is successfully able to get to the camp, group up for the kill assist, then Player C wants to keep the camp...that is a tough situation. I would say that Player C should have to wait in line like Player B, but that is opinion and there isn't a clear way.