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Old 05-27-2016, 01:26 PM
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Is that not the same standard applied when disproving the existence of God? There is no proof therefore it cannot exist?
Yes, nobody who really understands logic is going to go around trying to completely disprove some kind of God, because you can't, for the same reasons you can't prove it.

We can't make definitive statements about what conditions were like before the Big Bang, assuming that's an accurate model for expansion of the universe, because we have zero information. So we know nothing about the character of 'nothingness' or 'constant' or any of this stuff you're talking about. And the bible is not evidence of anything.
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Old 05-27-2016, 01:39 PM
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Your quotes just illustrate the apathy of God and the presence of at least one other actor. All God does is talk. Who does the work? His wife perhaps? I am not so sure your source offers a complete accounting.

The Greeks offer valuable insight. Prometheus (God) actually did craft man from mud (wet dust, which makes more sense because people are mostly water) and life is actually breathed into him by Athena, so clearly man's origins were a collaborative effort.
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Your quotes just illustrate the apathy of God and the presence of at least one other actor. All God does is talk. Who does the work? His wife perhaps? I am not so sure your source offers a complete accounting.

The Greeks offer valuable insight. Prometheus (God) actually did craft man from mud (wet dust, which makes more sense because people are mostly water) and life is actually breathed into him by Athena, so clearly man's origins were a collaborative effort.
I think "God" would be able to create/construct by just speaking it into existence, he is God ya know.

You did ask for a bridge, I provided the bridge, like God and Man you have the choice to cross it or not.
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I think "God" would be able to create/construct by just speaking it into existence, he is God ya know.

You did ask for a bridge, I provided the bridge, like God and Man you have the choice to cross it or not.
Sorry, that looks like it was a lot of work. Thank you. What I was looking for is the reasoning that you use to move across the gaps that I highlighted in my initial response. Logic doesn't get you there with the information provided in your original post and none of the information in your second post helps because it cannot be verified [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You argue pretty heavily against "nothingness". Who have you found arguing for it?
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