Best Server Community Sin--Wait, Nevermind

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Just because someone disagrees with you, or takes a different stance then you doesn't make them a 'douchebag'. I hate that term. Some middle schooler finds out what it is and starts using it, and here we are. Actions speak louder then words, including actions here.

The bottom line is, if your not at the camp for what ever reason, it is no longer your camp.

I agree with this, but say someone is camping say Raster for an extended period, their router burps or whatever, and they go linkdead. They log back in within minutes, as soon as their character is no longer active on their server and allows them to log in. They log back in, and you are now at the camp. Different ways different people handle it, as we see here. I would also point out there are people playing who would take advantage. They claim to 'have been there', or they gate to bank, or transfer a lore item, and come back to farm. As to the point of helping people cr in fear, and they turn around and stick it to you. One reason the rules do exist. Losing your camp can be unfortunate, but the people that arrive in the 30 seconds you are gone legitimately, are not 'douchebags'. Just as the people who lose a camp and are frustrated are not as well. There are people who use the rules to hide behind poor actions, but these rules also protect against people who act poorly. You cannot blame the OP for being disheartened, or frustrated, or the original camper. Just as you cannot blame the camp-taker(s) in their taking of the camp, when no one was present. The real key is how you handle yourself. I didn't read in the OP that the camp-takers were the scum of the earth, my take was more he would have been the good samaritan, and wishes others would be as well. While I agree with that sentiment, he has a right to his opinion, and doesn't deserve venom for feeling this way. And the people who argue what the rules state do not deserve it either, because it wasn't as if he merely moved 10 feet, or they caused his death.

Would be an interesting poll, "What would you do?"

The bottom line is, if your not at the camp for what ever reason, it is no longer your camp.

Player X trains Player Y. Player Y dies, and is no longer at the camp. Tough luck Player Y?

Player X has the camp. Player Z asks for help in the next room, to avoid death, or they ask for res, or cure, or something. Player X goes to help, is gone a mere matter of seconds. They arrive back at camp and Player Y claims it is now theirs. Tough luck Player X?

It isn't always so cut and dry. The best rule is the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Treat others as you would like to be treated. I would like to think we would be encouraged to help others, to help with that cr in fear, or hand the camp back to the poor soul. Instead we wish misfortune or ill upon others, so that we can benefit. Sad. The overriding rule is "Play nice." People often quote 'rules' which are mostly part of the F.A.Q. here, or clarifications posted on the forums.

And folks, trust me on this. If you ever lose your camp to an unfortunate incident, such as network issues, use your corpse. If you arrive at a camp, and a player claims they have been there and just died to X reason, use the corpse. Example: You are camping Dino, and suddenly you find yourself with a spell bug. Or you go Linkdead for no reason. You log back in 30 seconds later, bound there or nearby. Someone else tries to claim your camp. If your corpse says res timer is 2 hours, 58 minutes to expire, your chances of getting the camp back increase. Just because you die at a camp doesn't mean you lack the capability of holding it. Personally? if I see a corpse with 2 hours 5x minutes on it, they get the benefit of the doubt. I may watch to see if they can in fact kill it the next try, and will inform them. If I see no corpse, eh well they may be trying to pull a fast one and take the camp.

Have fun in game folks.