Fukushima: the end of Japan &

AzzarTheGod · #1 04-20-2016, 04:24 PM

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That's like here? I'm not sure if you really believe that or just that my sly trolollings pushed you over the edge at some point to take automatic opposits on everything [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
...or close to it.

Here, well is a whole other can of worms of course.

Any explanation Mr. All-Knowing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michae...gs_(journalist)

You say things aren't like that here. Then well... what are they...??

You went to MIT for your Masters degree in Counter-Terror special operations Daywolf? Oh you didn't.

The former National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counter-terrorism for the United States government did though, and he says "Its like that here." in regards to the Michael Hastings situation. I think I'll take his word for it, no offense pal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Clarke

Daywolf · #2 04-20-2016, 07:29 PM

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Any explanation Mr. All-Knowing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michae...gs_(journalist)

You say things aren't like that here. Then well... what are they...??

You went to MIT for your Masters degree in Counter-Terror special operations Daywolf? Oh you didn't.

The former National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counter-terrorism for the United States government did though, and he says "Its like that here." in regards to the Michael Hastings situation. I think I'll take his word for it, no offense pal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Clarke

You asking me? You cut the paragraph leaving only the premise. I seemed to already have answered, in short.

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Here, well is a whole other can of worms of course. All kinds of batshit crazy stuff on paper, just not widely enforced.. yet. Partly, yes.

And what I mean by widely enforced, is such as for example under martial law with gun confiscations such as happened during Katrina. Well not "martial law" but martial-law-like (just as much as we don't "declare war"). It was an unlawful and unconstitutional act to confiscate guns during the episode.

Now it didn't happen nationally, only in a smaller regional location (part of my above point). We haven't gotten to that point yet, not as Japan is currently. In our case, as the above article shows, these things are tested in regional areas (my spin: "test") but then it's pushed back against and thus is not lawful to do any longer ...as it stands.

But in Japans case, any such resistance is put down, on a national level. Not in the case of guns, as that has already been completely taken away. But in the case of freedoms of speech, freedoms of the press, that is being removed in this case, and with consequence of hard prison time if resisted.

You see, a different standard currently. It would be comparable to say that in the aftermath of Katrina, it would be illegal, and nationally, not only gun ownership, but to mention the aftermath of Katrina on the region, punishable by prison time, even though there are people at the time suffering the results of the devastation. Even five (in this case) or ten years later (in katrinas case) to discuss the existing problems or retrospect of what did happen.

And really, in fukushima's case, it isn't just five years ago, this is still happening right now. The huge plumes of radioactive smoke and steam have subsided, but the deadly aftermath has still not been fully contained.

Now, I'm not sure your point about Hastings. I read most of the first wiki link, but you didn't point specifically to anything in particular. I'm not sure if you are wanting me to dig out a point for you? Out of all that, in comparison to what I've been mashing keys about? I don't see it... He was an activist against the surveillance state and then died in a crash. As for Clarke, I have no idea at all... specifically.

I'm not policing the topic, but you gotta make yourself clear if you are deviating somewhere to some other points. My original post is along the lines of the Fukushima aftermath, the attempted cover-up within Japan, a similarity to a situation in the US in which there was an accident and as well a cover-up including prolonged effects on the population. Actively fighting back against such things. And all with an undertone of "don't trust the government" which I could probably attach 100 quotes from US founding fathers in agreement.

Oh yeah, and don't forget one of my very favorite solutions to our current power problems, cold fusion, which I too believe is not really in the interest of powers that be when it comes to population control (my purpose for the geopolitics link). But if I were such a mathematician/physicist/quantum theorist, that would absolutely be my field.
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AzzarTheGod · #3 04-20-2016, 07:34 PM

10 years in prison, or a lifetime in the grave?

US seems worse than Japan in that regard. Unfortunately nobody believes Michael Hastings died in a car crash, the burns to his body were too extreme and the car engine ejected 60 feet eye witnesses reported a large explosion after the crash a loud BOOM.

I'd rather have legislation like Japan where we have a system that can be administered in plain sight, with legitimate arrests and prison time for dissidents than extra-judicial killing of journalists.

Daywolf · #4 04-20-2016, 08:43 PM

For Science!

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10 years in prison, or a lifetime in the grave?

US seems worse than Japan in that regard. Unfortunately nobody believes Michael Hastings died in a car crash, the burns to his body were too extreme and the car engine ejected 60 feet eye witnesses reported a large explosion after the crash a loud BOOM.

I'd rather have legislation like Japan where we have a system that can be administered in plain sight, with legitimate arrests and prison time for dissidents than extra-judicial killing of journalists.

Seems flawed logic to me. Hastings was an individual case. Has this been applied to everyone and in practice? (apart from the patriot act on paper and not fully enforced as of yet, we are still fighting it). I mean if the conspiracy is true (not saying it is or isn't) still this is not a national issue as being applied to every case. It would be of national interest, but not national issue in that it's happening to everyone.

So it needs to be? ugh... that would be better? "legitimate arrests"? There is simply right and wrong, and legislation in no way legitimizes what is wrong to become right. This is evident in the gun confiscations of Katrina in which it was then fought against and defeated outright, and from a point of national interest. So ontop of that it would have been even better if anyone mentioning it being wrong that they be arrested? Seems more the dissidence of a few, and not speaking of those brandishing firearms or containing them within their homes. If the few in the government become a widespread and practiced order (66), then there is a problem there.

Perhaps I know where this line of thinking comes from, though I wholeheartedly disagree with it. Those that say "It's gotta get worse before it can get better". No, that just leads to a lot of dead people, and no guarantee it'll ever get better. It's just annihilistic, a deep flaw of logic in light of historical accounts.