Trump gets the shaft - Cruz proven communist

[Swish]

What I don't get (this is an outsider's perspective etc) is that in all of the last 3 Presidential elections you've had the same recipe 3 times. The opponent isn't electable.

John McCain - "We'll keep on as we were under GW Bush"
Mitt Romney - "I'm disturbing, if you have brain cells you can't vote for me"
Donald Trump - "We'll build a wall, and likely kick out all the Muslims" (would solve some terrorist issues but you know anyone who isn't white can't/won't vote for him)

...on the other side of that you've got Barack Obama twice who had it easy. First black president etc, of course it was happening.

...and Hilary Clinton. First female president.

There's no way she can lose, I just can't see it... as terrible as it's going to be.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...and Hilary Clinton. First female president.

There's no way she can lose, I just can't see it... as terrible as it's going to be.

I can't either. Especially since the attorney general said she wouldn't charge Hillary.

More partisan politics. The FBI is fed up with doing investigations for nobody for no reason having it sit in a locked vault. The commissioner even went out of his way to declare that the FBI is not a partisan organization when asked about the Hillary investigation, but hinted that the US attorney's office is.

[Daywolf]

Wow, much like al qaeda...

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...they took credit for the act.

[Trollhide]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I don't get (this is an outsider's perspective etc) is that in all of the last 3 Presidential elections you've had the same recipe 3 times. The opponent isn't electable.

John McCain - "We'll keep on as we were under GW Bush"
Mitt Romney - "I'm disturbing, if you have brain cells you can't vote for me"
Donald Trump - "We'll build a wall, and likely kick out all the Muslims" (would solve some terrorist issues but you know anyone who isn't white can't/won't vote for him)

...on the other side of that you've got Barack Obama twice who had it easy. First black president etc, of course it was happening.

...and Hilary Clinton. First female president.

There's no way she can lose, I just can't see it... as terrible as it's going to be.

The fact that every one of those unelectable turdstains you mentioned (while failing to mention King of the Turds Ted Cruz) is a Republican is no coincidence. The party as a whole is completely out of touch with the modern social clime and is trying to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming back into the 1950's. Their golden days, when a woman's place was the kitchen, segregation still existed, and "them queers" were seen as predatory deviants one and all. All while they loudly and publicly trumpet how much they love Jesus and Christian values. I'm actually very much a moderate, not a dem fanboy, but holy lord will I be tickled if Trump manages to bring the R party crashing down around him in civil war.

[Villide]

Originally Posted by Trollhide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that every one of those unelectable turdstains you mentioned (while failing to mention King of the Turds Ted Cruz) is a Republican is no coincidence. The party as a whole is completely out of touch with the modern social clime and is trying to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming back into the 1950's. Their golden days, when a woman's place was the kitchen, segregation still existed, and "them queers" were seen as predatory deviants one and all. All while they loudly and publicly trumpet how much they love Jesus and Christian values. I'm actually very much a moderate, not a dem fanboy, but holy lord will I be tickled if Trump manages to bring the R party crashing down around him in civil war.

Pretty much. It's amazing that the Dems are running two fossils, one that's corrupt as hell - and either of them are highly likely to kick the crap out of the Republican nominee in the fall.

A fiscally conservative, socially moderate Republican Party would be hugely attractive to independents and maybe even moderate Dems. But the R's are still trying to figure out how to corral their very loud minority.

[AzzarTheGod]

So it has come to my attention Trump is being fucked out of optional delegates in every single state.

Nobody wants to talk about this. But they want to talk about Hillary's superdelegates.

Optional delegates are just as fucking bad. Trump got fucked already, just no journalist wants to put the GOP on blast for it and tally up the optional delegates missed.

I knew something was wrong when I totaled up Trump's states won versus previous election cycles. It didn't add up.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it has come to my attention Trump is being fucked out of optional delegates in every single state.

Nobody wants to talk about this. But they want to talk about Hillary's superdelegates.

Optional delegates are just as fucking bad. Trump got fucked already, just no journalist wants to put the GOP on blast for it and tally up the optional delegates missed.

I knew something was wrong when I totaled up Trump's states won versus previous election cycles. It didn't add up.

He's not getting fucked out of anything the rules in each states nomination process are different. Some states have what's called "unbound delegates" and can vote for whoever they want to at the convention. Trump is lazy and didn't take the time to learn each states rules. Trump has no one to blame except himself and his staff. MOST of the delegates are BOUND to whoever the voters chose and at the convention they must vote for whoever they are bound to on the 1st ballot. If no candidate reaches 1237 on the 1st ballot they can vote for another candidate depending on how many ballots they are bound for. Lincoln was selected on like the 6th ballot even though he only had 22% of the delegates pre convention William Seward was far out in front but couldn't wrangle enuff delegates at the convention to win. No cheating just following the rules.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's not getting fucked out of anything the rules in each states nomination process are different. Some states have what's called "unbound delegates" and can vote for whoever they want to at the convention. Trump is lazy and didn't take the time to learn each states rules. Trump has no one to blame except himself and his staff. MOST of the delegates are BOUND to whoever the voters chose and at the convention they must vote for whoever they are bound to on the 1st ballot. If no candidate reaches 1237 on the 1st ballot they can vote for another candidate depending on how many ballots they are bound for. Lincoln was selected on like the 6th ballot even though he only had 22% of the delegates pre convention William Seward was far out in front but couldn't wrangle enuff delegates at the convention to win. No cheating just following the rules.

You realize a nominee is usually called by now with the delegates?

Trump isn't falling short because of Ted Cruz's success, its because of unbound delegates and abstain votes by delegates.

You are trying to say that Trump not getting these unbound delegates is some kind of legitimate function of the system. When in reality, we have never NOT had a nominee called by May/June.

The optional delegates are fucking him. Period. "rules and system" my ass, they didn't "rule and system" for George W Bush, or GHWB, or anyone in the last few decades. Its almost May, no nominee? That's a fuck job by the system.

[Villide]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize a nominee is usually called by now with the delegates?

Trump isn't falling short because of Ted Cruz's success, its because of unbound delegates and abstain votes by delegates.

You are trying to say that Trump not getting these unbound delegates is some kind of legitimate function of the system. When in reality, we have never NOT had a nominee called by May/June.

The optional delegates are fucking him. Period. "rules and system" my ass, they didn't "rule and system" for George W Bush, or GHWB, or anyone in the last few decades. Its almost May, no nominee? That's a fuck job by the system.

I kind of see both sides of this. He's getting fucked by the Republican Party, but the Republican Party is a self-preserving entity that knows he's a down-ticket boat anchor in the general. And they are acting accordingly.

Fun as hell to watch, though. If Trump gets within spitting distance of the 1,237, that convention's going to be mandatory viewing. I should probably schedule some vacation time now.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize a nominee is usually called by now with the delegates?

Trump isn't falling short because of Ted Cruz's success, its because of unbound delegates and abstain votes by delegates.

You are trying to say that Trump not getting these unbound delegates is some kind of legitimate function of the system. When in reality, we have never NOT had a nominee called by May/June.

The optional delegates are fucking him. Period. "rules and system" my ass, they didn't "rule and system" for George W Bush, or GHWB, or anyone in the last few decades. Its almost May, no nominee? That's a fuck job by the system.

Your wrong... Since the inception of the Republican Party there has been 10 contested conventions where the delegate leader didn't win the nominee on the 1st ballot. 1976 was the last one, Ford didn't have enough delegates and that went to convention. 1948 same thing and so on. You can view the results here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...al_Conventions