ATTN: All Raiding Guilds

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just a small update.

For the voice chat I'm leaning towards discord, please have that installed on your computer if you are planning to attend. You can download it for free here: https://discordapp.com/download


Regarding Variance; we have no plans, intentions, or desire to adjust the current Variance. It use to be a much larger window, and currently we feel it's in a nice middle ground between what Variance use to be and not having Variance at all. So love it or hate it, it's not worth discussing in this thread.

Regarding Earthquakes/Sim Repops: Literally everyone agrees that 3-5 repops a month would be ideal and work wonders across the board for everyone. I've never seen a player say more repops would be a bad idea. so again this topic is not worth discussing in this thread.


You pals should focus on problems within the raid scene. Things like training, griefing, rules that no longer apply and need to be changed, how to change those rules, revamping the concession system in a 3+ guild system, other ways incidents can be worked out between guilds when its more than just two guilds, how to avoid petitioning every encounter, and things within that realm, etc. Those are the types of things you should all be discussing here, with a focus on ToV and Kael (as those seem to be the biggest problem zones).


Another thing ive been hearing and getting messages about is who all will be here for this meeting. I'm looking for guild leaders of actual raiding guilds. The reason for this is that while i'd love to invite literally every guild leader on the server, the fact of the matter is that we've already seen in the past that things get increasingly harder with every extra person you add. I simply do not feel it's necessary to include everyone just so no one feels left out, or not special. you are all very special unique snowflakes. i just firmly believe it would be best to limit attendance to the Guild Leaders of the guilds that are currently dealing with the shit storm, as they are the ones most familiar with the issues and would have the best insight on those issues.

i hope this helped clear some things up, and i am very much looking forward to talking with you all tomorrow.

<3
Sirken

Taking the discussion of Variance Reduction and Increased Sim Repops off the table removes the absolute most important / viable solutions to resolving a huge number of issues we have with our raid scene here Sirken. Are these really things that Rogean will not touch? As you said, everyone agrees it would be a good thing.

--I realize its not a topic for tomorrows summit, but can you push Rogean to give you the capability or automate sim repops, as it would make your (and every raid guild on this server's) life far easier.

As Chest stated earlier, any other rule changes will simply be bandaids onto a festering wound.

We can surely talk about revamping some rules to be brought up to date, but that will not reduce the number of petitions, trains, or the concession scene much at all. Those are all issues that arise out of too many top-end guilds and not enough content being up simultaneously forcing them to spread out.

[arsenalpow]

Div/Anon should send a singular rep, as should CSG. I don't need to hear a position 3 separate times from CSG nor do I want to hear all 3 of you agreeing with each other after every point you make.

[Culkasi]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Div/Anon should send a singular rep, as should CSG. I don't need to hear a position 3 separate times from CSG nor do I want to hear all 3 of you agreeing with each other after every point you make.

We are 3 individual raid guilds and of course Cloki, Nemce and I will all participate. I cannot speak for Divinity and Anonymous.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are 3 individual raid guilds and of course Cloki, Nemce and I will all participate. I cannot speak for Divinity and Anonymous.

You refer to yourselves as the raiding alliance CSG, you aren't 3 separate guilds when it comes to actual contested raiding. CSG kills Klandicars and Cekenars or whatever. Europa has a skyday, but so does infernus and blackheart pirates and you don't see them with a seat at this table.

Everyone else gets one rep, so should your raiding entity. I don't want an echo.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taking the discussion of Variance Reduction and Increased Sim Repops off the table removes the absolute most important / viable solutions to resolving a huge number of issues we have with our raid scene here Sirken. Are these really things that Rogean will not touch? As you said, everyone agrees it would be a good thing.

--I realize its not a topic for tomorrows summit, but can you push Rogean to give you the capability or automate sim repops, as it would make your (and every raid guild on this server's) life far easier.

As Chest stated earlier, any other rule changes will simply be bandaids onto a festering wound.

We can surely talk about revamping some rules to be brought up to date, but that will not reduce the number of petitions, trains, or the concession scene much at all. Those are all issues that arise out of too many top-end guilds and not enough content being up simultaneously forcing them to spread out.

Repops and variance do not have an affect on petty kite / stall rules and training.