Trump just lost, will suspend soon

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have my permission to begin the full retard even before I get here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


I would say that Blitzers and Donald have something in common here, they both lack the general historical knowledge in regards to the abortion issue. Of course this is no simple issue.

So for the both of them it's a matter of learning the facts as well as the historical record. e.g yes Blitzers, as I linked to in Pol3$ RHINO thread with that article Reagan's Darkest hour, Reagan signed the biggest abortion bill for California before Roe vs Wade thus allowing for 100.000 abortions a year. Sure he regretted it, even regretted ignoring his trusted advisor on the issue, but he too was in error as errors tend to happen when one is not considerably educated in a matter.

In Donald's case, not only is he not so educated on the subject (it's a given as he is not really pro or con on the issue, that's not what this election is about), he likely has mixed information of what he does know on the subject. This is undoubtedly an influence from NOW, NARAL and Planned Parenthood propaganda where as they have created the urban legend of which Women were punished for abortion before the federal ruling of Roe vs. Wade. I mean chicken little shit to huge proportions. He has had dealings with Planned Parenthood in the past, so likely their message had influenced his knowledge of the issue, incorrectly as is their message.

The truth of the matter is, women were considered the "second victim" in cases of illegal abortions among the states before roe vs. wade (and this should still be a state level issue imo). So there was no real prosecution on the matter regarding a woman's participation. Of course as well, Donald didn't give any opinion towards "prosecution" as he would not answer and rightfully said "I don't know", but just that there should be some penalty in the matter for women if in fact abortion were to be illegal to whatever extent.

With his lack of knowledge on the issue, as well as Planned Parenthood propaganda he had likely been exposed to, I would contribute his response to the general understanding of the rule of law. If you break the law there is some form of penalty within a lawful society. This would generally make sense, yet this particular issue is so contested, convoluted and filled with all sorts of varying opinions, well sense is not something contributed to the issue of this nature.

I have no great issue with it, with what he said (were words not action), he just wasn't properly brought up to speed regarding the issue yet has since then recanted on his original comment as I'm sure his pro-life advisors corrected him regarding. Of course our culture of victimhood will continue to suffer victimization no matter the insult perceived.

ITS OVER JOHNNY

Even Trump won't be able to overcome this blunder. You don't claim ignorance on WEDGE issues especially this one. Most likely Clinton will be his opposition in the General and the War on Women campaign will LANDSLIDE Trump into the dump.

I eagerly await your concession speech. Lol

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ITS OVER JOHNNY

Even Trump won't be able to overcome this blunder. You don't claim ignorance on WEDGE issues especially this one. Most likely Clinton will be his opposition in the General and the War on Women campaign will LANDSLIDE Trump into the dump.

I eagerly await your concession speech. Lol

Reagan did. It makes no difference, Clinton has been and has always played the war on women card. This changes nothing in that regard, just as you can't change your constant reactionary knee-jerk response and kowtowing with the banking and republicrat elitists as your Cruz has chosen to align with, of which a co-founder of the tea party has denounced with an open letter to ted cruz.

Well if Cruz somehow manages to get the nomination, provided that his elitist friends don't steal it away from him at their brokered convention (oh they will, they so will), then maybe finally Cruz will get his baby passed, 0bamatrade. Only Donald and Rand Paul opposed 0bamatrade from the beginning, while Cruzer only changed his mind at the last moment when it became not so fashionable to support it. It actually gives considerable credibility to Pok3$ thread is ted cruz a RHINO.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reagan did. It makes no difference, Clinton has been and has always played the war on women card. This changes nothing in that regard, just as you can't change your constant reactionary knee-jerk response and kowtowing with the banking and republicrat elitists as your Cruz has chosen to align with, of which a co-founder of the tea party has denounced with an open letter to ted cruz.

Well if Cruz somehow manages to get the nomination, provided that his elitist friends don't steal it away from him at their contested convention (oh they will, they so will), then maybe finally Cruz will get his baby passed, 0bamatrade. Only Donald and Rand Paul opposed 0bamatrade from the beginning, while Cruzer only changed his mind at the last moment when it became not so fashionable to support it. It actually gives considerable credibility to Pok3$ thread is ted cruz a RHINO.

Har har har!

Dunno if we wanna get into the changing position argument in light of Trump's recent meltdown.

Grasping at straws, I love it.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Har har har!

Dunno if we wanna get into the changing position argument in light of Trump's recent meltdown.

Grasping at straws, I love it.

What changing position? he's had no real position on the matter. He's in there to fix other things, when has this campaign ever been about abortion apart from some liberal media interviewer trying to invent news?

You've already sold out, Blitzers, you'll be giving your life and blood to the banking and corporatist elitists that Cruzer has sold out to from the beginning, from the safety of his Canadian citizenship held all his life until it became unfashionable to retain it any longer (18 months ago).

The fact is he is at a severe disadvantage as to where it may come to attacks by Clinton or Sanders in a general election as "But whether a person born abroad of American parents, or of one American and one alien parent, qualifies as natural born has never been resolved. link". This could very possibly be a complete disaster for Cruz if they in fact decide to challenge the legitimacy of Ted's elegibility to run for a high office. This far more than some single uneducated response to an issue which has been no talking point in a campaign.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What changing position? he's had no real position on the matter. He's in there to fix other things, when has this campaign ever been about abortion apart from some liberal media interviewer trying to invent news?

You've already sold out, Blitzers, you'll be giving your life and blood to the banking and corporatist elitists that Cruzer has sold out to from the beginning, from the safety of his Canadian citizenship held all his life until it became unfashionable to retain it any longer (18 months ago).

The fact is he is at a severe disadvantage as to where it may come to attacks by Clinton or Sanders in a general election as "But whether a person born abroad of American parents, or of one American and one alien parent, qualifies as natural born has never been resolved. link". This could very possible be a complete disaster for Cruz if they in fact decide to challenge the legitimacy of Ted's elegibility to run for a high office. This far more than some single uneducated response to an issue which has been no talking point in a campaign.

^^^Daywolf on meltdown mode.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^Daywolf on meltdown mode.

I'm just stating facts as I usually do, along with source links to make a case. You just have no relevant defense against it, as has been the case post after post on the issues of this election cycle. Always the irrelevant and unwitty comeback, dude.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just stating facts as I usually do, along with source links to make a case. You just have no relevant defense against it, as has been the case post after post on the issues of this election cycle. Always the irrelevant and unwitty comeback, dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdlbnD6HstM&t=07s