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Old 03-22-2016, 09:06 PM
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Cameron criticises Ukip for linking Brussels attacks to immigration
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Ukip has been criticised by David Cameron and others for claiming the Brussels terror attacks show the dangers of lax immigration controls and a need to leave the EU.

Mike Hookem, the party’s defence spokesman, released a statement within two hours of the attacks saying the “horrific act of terrorism shows that Schengen free movement and lax border controls are a threat to our security”.

He drew the link between terrorism and immigration despite there being no information in the public domain about the identity of the attackers, their origins or motives.

“The head of Europol said in February that 5,000 jihadists are at large in the EU having slipped in from Syria,” Hookem said. “There are 94 returned jihadists currently living in Molenbeek, Brussels. This fact alone should alert people to the fact that open borders are putting the lives of European citizens at risk.”


The Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, added: “I’m very upset by events in Brussels today and even more depressed for the future.”

He also retweeted Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson, who made a similar point to Hookem with a tweet saying: “Brussels, de facto capital of the EU, is also the jihadist capital of Europe. And the Remainers dare to say we’re safer in the EU! #Brexit.”

David Cameron was among those to criticise Ukip’s remarks. He said it was “not appropriate” to be drawing a link between the terror attacks and immigration on such a day.

Hookem, an MEP, responded on Twitter to criticism that the press release was distasteful, saying: “What is shameless is putting lives at risk for the sake of political union ... I am in Brussels; how many of those people attacking me are sitting safely behind computers?”

Ukip made a similar intervention after the Paris terror attacks, suggesting that immigration had contributed to the inevitability of atrocities.

At the time, Farage said: “The thing that makes me angry about what happened in Paris is frankly the fact that it was so utterly and entirely predictable. I think we’ve reached a point where we have to admit to ourselves, in Britain and France and much of the rest of Europe, that mass immigration and multicultural division has for now been a failure.”

He went even further than that by saying some British Muslims are “conflicted in their loyalties” between the UK way of life and what some elements within their faith are telling them.

Although Ukip has clearly linked terror attacks to the arguments for leaving the EU, the other Brexit wing, Vote Leave, is more keen to stress potential economic benefits of quitting the EU and not let the campaign become too negatively focused on immigration.
when the fuck is it appropriate then?
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:16 PM
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Still waiting for you guys to show us euros how it's done and find a "solution" to the "muslim problem" in the us ? 3.3 million muslims living in the usa. That's a lot of potential suicide bombers amirite ? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not like you guys are learning from your mistakes.
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:30 PM
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Still waiting for you guys to show us euros how it's done and find a "solution" to the "muslim problem" in the us ? 3.3 million muslims living in the usa. That's a lot of potential suicide bombers amirite ? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not like you guys are learning from your mistakes.
Europeans are dying at the hands of Muslim radicals. So are Americans. Yet your politically correct leaders have you bickering with Americans at who is worse at controlling terrorism. Are you blind or just stupid? Address the real issue
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:33 PM
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Europeans are dying at the hands of Muslim radicals. So are Americans. Yet your politically correct leaders have you bickering with Americans at who is worse at controlling terrorism. Are you blind or just stupid? Address the real issue
Well adress it ! tell me what you'd do !
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:51 PM
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It's not like you guys are learning from your mistakes.
What mistakes? That's why Europe is headed to defeat, won't take realistic measures to protect themselves. Dealing with the Japanese the way they did was their decision, what they felt had to be done. Oh and they won the war btw, if that matters to you.

In this situation that won't work with such camps, not w/o a huge stockpile of 50 shades of grey they seem to require for reading as a pastime. As has been proven time and time again, the only thing they respond to is to someone that will stand up and not take it any longer, to be firm and not back down. Generally they only go after the weak and limp willed, puts them into a frenzy to attack.

Terrorism requires ...terror, you must become afraid and run to the gobernment demanding appeasement, and that only drives them to strike even harder. It has nothing to do about death or body count, it's about terror to turn you against your own people. So you fling your boarders open for appeasement sake, thinking they just want to live with you in peace. Then sudden destruction.
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:58 PM
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Dealing with the Japanese the way they did was their decision, what they felt had to be done. Oh and they won the war btw, if that matters to you.
There were not japanese. They were american citizens that happened to have japanese ancestry.

So what you're saying is, there's no problems with the 3.3 millions muslims living in the USA ..? because you're "firm" with them ?

Wow. it's almost like you say they're afraid of the american laws.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:07 PM
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There were not japanese. They were american citizens that happened to have japanese ancestry.

So what you're saying is, there's no problems with the 3.3 millions muslims living in the USA ..? because you're "firm" with them ?

Wow. it's almost like you say they're afraid of the american laws.
Well if you've spent any time around this forum, you'd prolly not bother asking that.

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Old 03-22-2016, 10:33 PM
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So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls. Y'all are like against multiculturalism, but don't wanna say what to do against it.. which is obviously the separations of muslims from the rest of the society. Hey why stops at muslims ? throw in communists, homosexuals, and gypsies too. Put them into what's left of detroit, you can call that "the detroit ghetto".

Most of the people suffering from Isis are muslims. But somehow, they want this ! because all muslims are muslims so they obviously do muslim things that they are musliming, right ? We are all occidentals here. And yet we all strongly disagree with each other. WELL GUESS WHAT, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING IN THE ARAB WORLD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] .

Y'all should be ashamed. because while you guys are shitting with your fox news inherited way of thinking comfortably sitting in your chairs, some of them are actually fighting and dying every day on the ground, some of them are taking immense risks to testify what's happening in syria right now, some of them are doing their part in the crysis 10 times more than the richest countries in the world. And don't even get me started on the fucking mess the bush administration left in Irak. Isis and the rest of the world can thank you on this one.

All done, you guys are sickening. I can't wait for you guys to elect Trump and then wonder why the rest of the world is laughing at you and/or hating you.
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So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls.
tl;dr after that full retard.
You're just not listening, phishing for something specific to respond to for your predetermined ranty reply. The rest of your post is likely releasing that predetermined response in all directions with extra frustration as no one fully bit (and this isn't an instant forum btw). On a normal day the full retard is humorous, but me thinks times like this OT needs a wall built to protect the inmates. Maybe some FEMA camps to contain the ones that make it over the electrified barbed wire and past the auto-cannon drones. You look like you could use a refreshing iced-tea.
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So no one is gonna say what they really think ? 2 solutions: either y'all are big trolls, or you don't have balls. Y'all are like against multiculturalism, but don't wanna say what to do against it.. which is obviously the separations of muslims from the rest of the society. Hey why stops at muslims ? throw in communists, homosexuals, and gypsies too. Put them into what's left of detroit, you can call that "the detroit ghetto".

Most of the people suffering from Isis are muslims. But somehow, they want this ! because all muslims are muslims so they obviously do muslim things that they are musliming, right ? We are all occidentals here. And yet we all strongly disagree with each other. WELL GUESS WHAT, IT'S THE SAME FUCKING THING IN THE ARAB WORLD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] .

Y'all should be ashamed. because while you guys are shitting with your fox news inherited way of thinking comfortably sitting in your chairs, some of them are actually fighting and dying every day on the ground, some of them are taking immense risks to testify what's happening in syria right now, some of them are doing their part in the crysis 10 times more than the richest countries in the world. And don't even get me started on the fucking mess the bush administration left in Irak. Isis and the rest of the world can thank you on this one.

All done, you guys are sickening. I can't wait for you guys to elect Trump and then wonder why the rest of the world is laughing at you and/or hating you.
Hi there. I don't like you. And I don't reckon you like me either. Now I might decide I like you, but if I do, does that mean you will like me too?
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