Spawn Varience

[Mise]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I <3 when people say this. Please explain 1. What incentive the guilds currently getting the bosses have to voluntarily give them away, 2. Why the GMs care / would waste their time trying to enforce this and 3. How this is classic.

1. The incentive is not having to poopsock. Setting a definite time to raid that doesn't involve logging in bleary eyed at 3am to down a raid target takes some pressure off the players, and you'll probably have less burnouts. Yes, the two guilds that are getting everything right now would have to give some of that up.

2. It would not be in any way GM enforced, so the GMs don't have to care. All the guilds that are capable of downing bosses would have to sign up for a raid calendar. Any guild that hijacks something would then be blacklisted by the entire raiding community.

3. We worked out a rotation just fine in classic on my server.

I'm not saying it's not a huge mountain to climb, with all the animosity between guilds and grown men acting like children, but it would certainly be the ideal to work toward a rotation.

Obviously this topic has been beaten to death on these forums, and by the looks of things it'll probably never happen. If the variance were removed though, I think a rotation would become more of a possibility once people realize how stupid it is to sit on a spawn with 200 other people and 4-5 guilds waiting to get the first engage.

[Shiftin]

Originally Posted by Mise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. The incentive is not having to poopsock. Setting a definite time to raid that doesn't involve logging in bleary eyed at 3am to down a raid target takes some pressure off the players, and you'll probably have less burnouts. Yes, the two guilds that are getting everything right now would have to give some of that up.

2. It would not be in any way GM enforced, so the GMs don't have to care. All the guilds that are capable of downing bosses would have to sign up for a raid calendar. Any guild that hijacks something would then be blacklisted by the entire raiding community.

3. We worked out a rotation just fine in classic on my server.

I'm not saying it's not a huge mountain to climb, with all the animosity between guilds and grown men acting like children, but it would certainly be the ideal to work toward a rotation.

Obviously this topic has been beaten to death on these forums, and by the looks of things it'll probably never happen. If the variance were removed though, I think a rotation would become more of a possibility once people realize how stupid it is to sit on a spawn with 200 other people and 4-5 guilds waiting to get the first engage.

You understand we don't poopsock, right? I don't mean that in an insulting way, I've just noticed a lot of people misusing that word, and it's not something that happens on a regular basis at this point (at least by us).

[Mise]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You understand we don't poopsock, right? I don't mean that in an insulting way, I've just noticed a lot of people misusing that word, and it's not something that happens on a regular basis at this point (at least by us).

I understand that you don't sit on spawns with a full raid buffed and ready to go for hours on end waiting for bosses in window, what would be considered an extreme case of "poopsocking".

I don't think I'm misusing the made up word, because at the very least the trackers are gonna be poopsocking it up. I'll concede that it doesn't really extend the term to the rest of the guild, who are sleeping peacefully with their characters buffed and logged out by the spawn waiting for the batphone to ring.

[Omnimorph]

Originally Posted by Mise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand that you don't sit on spawns with a full raid buffed and ready to go for hours on end waiting for bosses in window, what would be considered an extreme case of "poopsocking".

I don't think I'm misusing the made up word, because at the very least the trackers are gonna be poopsocking it up. I'll concede that it doesn't really extend the term to the rest of the guild, who are sleeping peacefully with their characters buffed and logged out by the spawn waiting for the batphone to ring.

Most trackers will be there for a few hours, then someone else will log them on or use a diff tracker.

Some people do camp their characters out at spawn points or near them when a boss is near the end of their window, but the vast majority of the time it's just down to pure mobilisation. Just too many people buy into the propaganda of RnF where everyone has a level 50 camped at every boss, waiting to log them in.