Why Do so many Conservitives play this FREE game?

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The solution is def not to give everyone a free Ferrari. Something given has no value. This is why I believe those who sustain via government handouts have low self esteem. No one likes to take a handout. People will do it, but they often will hate you for having to take it. As well, when someone else is paying your way, that is not freedom.

There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?

How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.

This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.

I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey

This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.

I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)

maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)

And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.

At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.

/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?

How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.

This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.

I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey

This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.

I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)

maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)

And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.

At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.

/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.

Truly the main issue we face is over population. If you think about it, OP is the largest contributor to suffering in this world. Automation amplifies suffering, because fewer people are required to do the same tasks as before, yet we never stop creating new people. So what do they do?

We are hundreds if not thousands of years from unifying as a species, like some star trek type society. Someday though we will have to in order to reach the stars for real. Sadly though, even in that sort of world, there will be the down trodden because we can't stop breeding and someone has to clean the shit.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Truly the main issue we face is over population. If you think about it, OP is the largest contributor to suffering in this world. Automation amplifies suffering, because fewer people are required to do the same tasks as before, yet we never stop creating new people. So what do they do?

We are hundreds if not thousands of years from unifying as a species, like some star trek type society. Someday though we will have to in order to reach the stars for real. Sadly though, even in that sort of world, there will be the down trodden because we can't stop breeding and someone has to clean the shit.

Then we should be able to recognize the merit and value in people, clean the shit, and not worry overmuch about the logistical and technological aspects. I guess I had this battle and I've picked my side in my head.

I'm ok with that. I know where my bounderies lay and I don't want to be on the losing side forever. In fact I'm really close to turning the gears of civilization in my favor, liberty is just a few minutes away for me. And in legal and ethical big picture sense. Part of that was going to school and developing a skill I am fond of that is not easily automated.

Another part of that is getting society to respect me for who I am.

The last part of that is taking advantage (Yes TAKING ADVANAGE) of whatever resources are available for me to start becoming productive in this great society we have. That includes all kinds of things like VA benifits (earned) SSI, being hauled away years ago in an ambulance after being suicidal. Etc...

I like to argue a lot it's better to give people a bit of breathing room than simply put your boot down on their neck and watch them squirm for a 2cnd ferrari.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another part of that is getting society to respect me for who I am.

Respect is earned, not coerced through government force.

Also, I'm glad you had the foresight to obtain an education in a useful skill instead of a feel good degree with zero real life value, for which others would be on the hook to pay for, if someone like Sanders wins.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Respect is earned, not coerced through government force.

Also, I'm glad you had the foresight to obtain an education in a useful skill instead of a feel good degree with zero real life value, for which others would be on the hook to pay for, if someone like Sanders wins.

I never used government force to coerce people. But government force is neccisary to stop the scumlords from being the governing force and dictating as petty tyrants over their little fiefdoms.

Government force at this point is the global consensus and you cant change the global consensus without earning some respect in the real life arena outside of politics first.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never used government force to coerce people. But government force is neccisary to stop the scumlords from being the governing force and dictating as petty tyrants over their little fiefdoms.

Government force at this point is the global consensus and you cant change the global consensus without earning some respect in the real life arena outside of politics first.

The left is determined to use social pressure and government force to coerce approval and silence dissent of their agenda.

Examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZVEVufWFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7ULJPZWLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H1dMakvSo

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The left is determined to use social pressure and government force to coerce approval and silence dissent of their agenda.

Examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZVEVufWFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7ULJPZWLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H1dMakvSo

these are videos of idiot kids...

Sara Palin, Trump, Carson are literately candidates for the Right.

Pretty much every Candidate on the right sound exactly like the kids in those videos.

do you get it?