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Old 02-19-2016, 05:58 PM
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Lvl 29? I prolly wouldn't bother
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:02 PM
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Lvl 29? I prolly wouldn't bother
this is pretty on target, its nice to want to slow but really if you just root pulls for tanking, C everyone, an occasional mez during bad pulls, you'll be doing fine at this level as a groupable enchanter.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:11 PM
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this is pretty on target, its nice to want to slow but really if you just root pulls for tanking, C everyone, an occasional mez during bad pulls, you'll be doing fine at this level as a groupable enchanter.
I was wondering what the expectation is of an enchanter. I find charming to be quite risky. It breaks every other fight which is annoying. But my assumption is the good enchanters always have a charmed mob in group
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:13 PM
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I was wondering what the expectation is of an enchanter. I find charming to be quite risky. It breaks every other fight which is annoying. But my assumption is the good enchanters always have a charmed mob in group
You're charming mobs too high for you, then. Try ones that are on the low end of dark blue, or xp greens. And of course make sure the mob is tashed.

I used to think it was too hard to stick charm and didn't think much of charm as a result. I think it would be pretty hard for me to have been wronger there. Charm is one of the main reasons enchanters are so OP.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:15 PM
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I was wondering what the expectation is of an enchanter. I find charming to be quite risky. It breaks every other fight which is annoying. But my assumption is the good enchanters always have a charmed mob in group
up until you are 45+ really, just providing C and mezzing occasional bad pulls is fine. If there is no wizard in the group you can always root to help the tank keep agro on him..

but really the value of C is just so good that simply casting that and waiting for a bad pull is enough.. also you can use level 4 mez to interrupt all caster mobs so they can never cast, which is nice.

once you get 45+ you can start having more successful charming and you become a GREAT dps addition, while also providing the C/mez/interrupt help...

pre 45 and charming is going to just suck so much mana from your healers that they will ask you to stop. You can do it, but it just doesn't last long at these low levels.. try what poster above me says about grabbing a low level mob, but be careful that you dont pick something so low that it does like no damage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also at 45+ you can start delving greedily into the deep dungeons of norrath solo or with a partner. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:18 PM
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pre 45 and charming is going to just suck so much mana from your healers that they will ask you to stop.
Nah, you can still do this. Just get mobs that are low end of db / xp green. Even an xp green mob is a great dps addition and they'll stay charmed for long enough to make it worthwhile.

The problem people get into is taking any db. Some dbs are tougher than others. The ones close to your level will break charm left and right and piss everyone off.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:23 PM
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Nah, you can still do this. Just get mobs that are low end of db / xp green. Even an xp green mob is a great dps addition and they'll stay charmed for long enough to make it worthwhile.

The problem people get into is taking any db. Some dbs are tougher than others. The ones close to your level will break charm left and right and piss everyone off.
in my experiance its just not worth it, but hey to each there own. I parsed green pond mobs against graveyard mobs in MM and was doing like 120 damage a pull heh compared to how much damage they would do to me during a break, just wasn't worth it IMO
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:26 PM
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in my experiance its just not worth it, but hey to each there own. I parsed green pond mobs against graveyard mobs in MM and was doing like 120 damage a pull heh compared to how much damage they would do to me during a break, just wasn't worth it IMO
You can mitigate this by parking the charmed mob away in case they break. But they probably shouldn't be breaking that often. Again it depends on what you charm. Some mobs have naturally higher MRs than others (knights in guk always have higher MR than the warriors and shamans for example).

You can always use the animation also, if you don't mind getting hit once to open things up. They are pretty underrated sources of damage, especially at lower levels. I find them more annoying on balance than the charmed pets though.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:22 PM
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you can use level 4 mez to interrupt all caster mobs so they can never cast
I didn't know this. Wow, I suck at playing an enchanter
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:02 PM
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Lvl 29? I prolly wouldn't bother
Besides keeping haste and clarity up, would you be casting suffocate each mob?
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