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Old 02-18-2016, 06:48 PM
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How do you figure aggressive to PoP?? That's a really odd comment, bro.
The increase in subs abruptly stops while all the pre-luclin hype is cast into the machine from SOE - just months before it's release.
You aren't reading the graph the same way.

I'm taking into account re-subs and returns. Its open to interpretation.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:04 PM
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You aren't reading the graph the same way.
I'm reading it vertically.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:13 PM
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I'm reading it vertically.
I'm reading it diagonally.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:28 PM
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I'm reading it diagonally.
Ahh yeah I can see how that would change things with a little tilt to the graph. Marvelous idea! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously though, I'm being objective here, it's not a good point with the release. Such a release should have spurred continued growth, regardless of the name of the game, but it didn't. There was a paradigm shift there that effected growth. You could apply it to any other game and come to the same conclusion. I've seen this happen to a number of games.

I held on through it, up until just after the platinum box release. I got into the emu when it was nearly unplayable pre-alpha just a little after platinum box release.
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That's a pretty interesting chart. The rate of increase in subscribers notably flattened out at Luclin. All the way from release to Velious it was spiking rapidly, and then on the Luclin release the derivative goes way down.

Luclin was "good" at subscriber retention, and not good at attracting new subs, which sounds about right - totally catered to the people already neckbearding, but little to offer to newbies who were trying to get immersed in a fantasy world, and instead found cats on a moon.
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Old 02-19-2016, 01:41 PM
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Luclin was "good" at subscriber retention, and not good at attracting new subs, which sounds about right - totally catered to the people already neckbearding, but little to offer to newbies who were trying to get immersed in a fantasy world, and instead found cats on a moon.
Well it doesn't really say what was going on there apart from the obvious stall. Were there new players coming into the game? I'm certain there were, it was still a good game for the most part and boxes on shelves to be bought. Were people leaving? Well if there were new players to the game, and I'm sure there were (though maybe less), and then the increase in accounts suddenly went stagnate, that would mean players were leaving as well. This is called "turnover", and it apparently began in the time just leading up to the Luclin release.
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Velious is where the peak plateaus.
Depths of Darkhollow is where the population died. (But that may have been related to world of warcraft's growing popularity at that time)

I don't see luclin or pop causing a a increase of players/hype...
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wow launched in 2004, what the hell happened in EQ at the start of 2006 that killed the game like that?
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