Shadows of Luclin server

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Taryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather have options than to have one server try to do it all. Keep P99 through Velious, for all other needs, see this list.

Nobody is saying force Luclin on people. You can bring up a Velious beta box for it.

Instance a server with Luclin and char copy over. Assure people it is a real legit server and not a temporary.

I bet the nerds hating on classic Luclin (2002 shits classic) are in the extreme vocal minority. The forums have a lot of autists on them that can't stomach the idea of change, so any anti-Luclin sentiment should be taken with a large grain of salt without a poll. (Hint: poll was already done, Luclin + PoP broke the next highest option by 200-300 votes. Someone else can dig the link again).

The content of Luclin is largely considered the Golden Age of EQ. The design was the largest project SOE had ever undertaken to date, and it showed in the zones and textures.

You shouldn't deny people development on a 2002 expansion on the basis that 30 autists have poor recollections of the content and a biased preconception of what is classic and what isn't. The forum poll taken last year hit the multi-hundred votes for Luclin.

[Soandso]

EQ before even Kunark was my favorite time but I did enjoy aspects of Luclin and PoP but they aren't classic AT ALL. I also don't think people don't want more xpacs cuz they don't want change, I mean if that was the case people wouldn't have been clamoring for Kunark and then Velious, they just really like the holy trinity and don't like the direction Luclin took EQ in, fantasy world to rocket ships to cats on the moon with literally ALIEN mobs. Not to mention Luclin models and POK, Bazaar, SSRA, etc.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is saying force Luclin on people. You can bring up a Velious beta box for it.

Instance a server with Luclin and char copy over. Assure people it is a real legit server and not a temporary.

I bet the nerds hating on classic Luclin (2002 shits classic) are in the extreme vocal minority. The forums have a lot of autists on them that can't stomach the idea of change, so any anti-Luclin sentiment should be taken with a large grain of salt without a poll. (Hint: poll was already done, Luclin + PoP broke the next highest option by 200-300 votes. Someone else can dig the link again).

The content of Luclin is largely considered the Golden Age of EQ. The design was the largest project SOE had ever undertaken to date, and it showed in the zones and textures.

You shouldn't deny people development on a 2002 expansion on the basis that 30 autists have poor recollections of the content and a biased preconception of what is classic and what isn't. The forum poll taken last year hit the multi-hundred votes for Luclin.

You mean this poll? http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=227173

In that one "progress to Luclin" had 121 votes. "Open a server for 'other options' " had 62. 230 people selected non-Luclin things.

Nobody is denying things on the basis of poor ad hominem attacks. People were there, and they made their own decisions, absent any perceived characteristics you ascribe them.

PS. "largely considered" = weasel words. I personally know of 0 people (except maybe you?) who consider Luclin the "golden age of EQ". YMMV obviously.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean this poll? http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=227173

In that one "progress to Luclin" had 121 votes. "Open a server for 'other options' " had 62. 230 people selected non-Luclin things.

Uh, you realize that having 80% of the options as "non-Luclin" sort of makes the poll useless but nice try.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh, you realize that having 80% of the options as "non-Luclin" sort of makes the poll useless but nice try.

So put up one that fits your methodology. I'm sure the result will be similar.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So put up one that fits your methodology. I'm sure the result will be similar.

You think the 200+ votes will strictly go towards non-Luclin? Doubtful. However, beside that, I don't care enough. I don't play on P99 at the moment. I play on Phinigel which WILL go to Luclin.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So put up one that fits your methodology. I'm sure the result will be similar.

You have made it clear you are even against Luclin being released on a clone char copy box that has nothing to do with your server.

I'd say at this point that you are so anti-Luclin that it is obnoxious, and there is absolutely concern about impartiality when it comes to your opinions and characterizations of the Luclin expansion.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have made it clear you are even against Luclin being released on a clone char copy box that has nothing to do with your server.

I'd say at this point that you are so anti-Luclin that it is obnoxious, and there is absolutely concern about impartiality when it comes to your opinions and characterizations of the Luclin expansion.

I'd say at this point that you are so pro-Luclin that it is obnoxious, and there is absolutely concern about impartiality when it comes to your opinions and characterizations of the Luclin expansion.

I mean, at least I didn't call people who disagreed with me "autistic" or whatever.

[Sebastionleo]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean this poll? http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=227173

In that one "progress to Luclin" had 121 votes. "Open a server for 'other options' " had 62. 230 people selected non-Luclin things.

Nobody is denying things on the basis of poor ad hominem attacks. People were there, and they made their own decisions, absent any perceived characteristics you ascribe them.

PS. "largely considered" = weasel words. I personally know of 0 people (except maybe you?) who consider Luclin the "golden age of EQ". YMMV obviously.

That's not the poll he's referring to. We had a poll pre awakening, months ago, some time last year at least with similar options, and Luclin/POP dominated the poll.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You shouldn't deny people development on a 2002 expansion on the basis that 30 autists have poor recollections of the content and a biased preconception of what is classic and what isn't. The forum poll taken last year hit the multi-hundred votes for Luclin.

smh. devs don't want luclin/pop. Classic EQ is Kunark/Velious in the eyes of them and many others included. I like the idea of a totally different server that progresses and then it'll make everyone happy but you have to think, why would the devs do that? When they believe luclin was the beginning of the end of EQ? why invest a bunch of time for all of us whiny ass brats who act entitled on a free elf sim and go demanding expansions they very clearly are NOT uninterested in?

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say at this point that you are so anti-Luclin that it is obnoxious, and there is absolutely concern about impartiality when it comes to your opinions and characterizations of the Luclin expansion.

You're so pushy for expansions that a minority want. The MAJORITY of people voted in that poll that they disagree with you.

In the end though we can talk all day long about it but it's not our decision to make, and the decision has already been made. Talk about beating a dead fucking horse.