Conservatism vs Progressivism

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is all you ever talk about.

It's not the 1960s anymore, get out of here with your regressive "skin color is the only thing that is important" shit. Skin color hasn't determined ones class status in America for over 30 years.


Black lives don't matter any more than anyone else's. Grow up.

literatly everything in my OP is designed to disenfranchise voters.

If your god damned OLDencon secret society that you neocons support wasn't trying ruin the lives of the black women and men of america, the nation would be far better off.

fine, you want another issue?

60% of our taxes going to wars for no reason that help nobody is a pretty fucking big one.

which to no surprise is the work of the conservative party

[maskedmelon]

On topic (unless racism is the new topic), what about all the failed social programs I listed? How does society benefit from prolonging the least productive years of peoples lives and subsidizing failure?

It's just an extension of the implicit agreement among individuals proselytizing progressive ideology: "I won't say you're wrong if you won't say I'm wrong." It's nothing more than boldfaced denial of responsibility. Eventually you run out of people to blame and money to steal though.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On topic (unless racism is the new topic), what about all the failed social programs I listed? How does society benefit from prolonging the least productive years of peoples lives and subsidizing failure?

It's just an extension of the implicit agreement among individuals proselytizing progressive ideology: "I won't say you're wrong if you won't say I'm wrong." It's nothing more than boldfaced denial of responsibility. Eventually you run out of people to blame and money to steal though.

Im going to have to have you go into more specific detail into what you were thinking.

You listed a bunch of social programs, then you listed a bunch of corporations... I still am not sure what you were getting at with that post.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OIt's just an extension of the implicit agreement among individuals proselytizing progressive ideology: "I won't say you're wrong if you won't say I'm wrong." It's nothing more than boldfaced denial of responsibility. Eventually you run out of people to blame and money to steal though.

I want to address this though... the way I see the two systems is

Conservatives: Society wants people to behave a certain way, so it creates laws that make people behave the way it wants you to.

Progressive: Looks at the way people behave, crates programs based on that behavior to help facilitate positive change. If you don't want to change, that's ok, it's your right.

Conservatism is Idealistic and progressivism is realistic. One is free the other is oppressive.

Makes no sense to me that conservatives tout the word freedom while imposing social laws on people time and time again.

*edit* side note - 60% military tax spending is steeling money from me for something that I am not just morally against but economically against.

I have no voice in 60% of my taxes, in my FREE country... if anyone is steeling anything, its the conservative party.

[Hastley]

Does the OP have a job? Does he pay taxes? Is he even a US citizen?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Hastley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does the OP have a job? Does he pay taxes? Is he even a US citizen?

lets not get into attacking anon accounts, some of our most ignorant posters may be some of the most powerful IRL

some of our most moral of posters may be the most wealthy.

last thing we need is another fucking person on the forums like noscow that posts about how hot his fat as whife is.

[Hastley]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lets not get into attacking anon accounts, some of our most ignorant posters may be some of the most powerful IRL

some of our most moral of posters may be the most wealthy.

last thing we need is another fucking person on the forums like noscow that posts about how hot his fat as whife is.

Background qualifications are important in determining the stakes and motives posters have. Don't care about random peoples progeny or wives though. So, are you a citizen of the USA?

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I want to address this though... the way I see the two systems is

Conservatives: Society wants people to behave a certain way, so it creates laws that make people behave the way it wants you to.

Progressive: Looks at the way people behave, crates programs based on that behavior to help facilitate positive change. If you don't want to change, that's ok, it's your right.

Conservatism is Idealistic and progressivism is realistic. One is free the other is oppressive.

Makes no sense to me that conservatives tout the word freedom while imposing social laws on people time and time again.

*edit* side note - 60% military tax spending is steeling money from me for something that I am not just morally against but economically against.

I have no voice in 60% of my taxes, in my FREE country... if anyone is steeling anything, its the conservative party.

Seems like you have no grasp of history whatsoever. ALERT ALERT, War existed thousands of years before the Creation of the USA. It's like you think if America didn't exist there would be no wars. History has proven a Stong Military and Economy is necessary for the survival of a nation. Military should be the only TAX expense for a government. Have idiot politicians made horrible mistakes when using our military, yes. That has nothing to do with conservative policy or ideology. I would like to see YOU IRUINEDYOURDAY talk yourself out of a beheading from ISIS. I'm positive you'd convert just to save your own ass.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Military should be the only TAX expense for a government

If this was the way our government worked, you'd be spending 110% of your paycheck for just using the fucking the corporate owned road idiot.

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have idiot politicians made horrible mistakes when using our military, yes. That has nothing to do with conservative policy or ideology.

incorrect, it is conservative idiot politicians that making those mistakes using our military.

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to see YOU IRUINEDYOURDAY talk yourself out of a beheading from ISIS

I am not a coward (like you appear to be) afraid of the conservative military created ISIS that has no threat to any american lives outside of the military we send there to create them.

[Blitzers]

[QUOTE=iruinedyourday;2174500]If this was the way our government worked, you'd be spending 110% of your paycheck for just using the fucking the corporate owned road idiot.

Wrong again, I would only be paying for the ROADS I used not the roads u ride the bus on to pickup your welfare check. The price of that road would be much lower because the contract would have been negotiated to save money not to fulfill a politicians favor to some Union thugs.

incorrect, it is conservative idiot politicians that making those mistakes using our military.

Once again those politicians were NOT conservatives they were big government progressives ie. Medicare part B


I am not a coward (like you appear to be) afraid of the conservative military created ISIS that has no threat to any american lives outside of the military we send there to create them.[/QUOTE

ISIS was created by Obama to lead a proxy war against Assad in Syria. Yes u are a coward who hides behind the race card every chance u get.