Conservatism vs Progressivism

[Spyder73]

And the war on drugs failed? I guess that depends on your definition of a win. If actually eliminating drug use is the goal then its a terrible failure. If bleeding your citizen for money through arrests, fines, and pushing for more money for the prison system because of "overcrowding" (mainly due to drug offenders) is the goal the its wildly successful.

[maskedmelon]

Our present problem of criminality is one of inequality and disparate punishment. Let us have but one penalty for all crime that we might be more reserved in what we declare criminal.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our present problem of criminality is one of inequality and disparate punishment. Let us have but one penalty for all crime that we might be more reserved in what we declare criminal.

The criminal justice system as well as all conservative systems are designed to disenfranchise poor voters, aka black voters.

The problems that the united states faces is one that can stem from one single issue, it is a racist country.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

one single issue

Is all you ever talk about.

It's not the 1960s anymore, get out of here with your regressive "skin color is the only thing that is important" shit. Skin color hasn't determined ones class status in America for over 30 years.


Black lives don't matter any more than anyone else's. Grow up.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is all you ever talk about.

It's not the 1960s anymore, get out of here with your regressive "skin color is the only thing that is important" shit. Skin color hasn't determined ones class status in America for over 30 years.


Black lives don't matter any more than anyone else's. Grow up.

literatly everything in my OP is designed to disenfranchise voters.

If your god damned OLDencon secret society that you neocons support wasn't trying ruin the lives of the black women and men of america, the nation would be far better off.

fine, you want another issue?

60% of our taxes going to wars for no reason that help nobody is a pretty fucking big one.

which to no surprise is the work of the conservative party

[maskedmelon]

On topic (unless racism is the new topic), what about all the failed social programs I listed? How does society benefit from prolonging the least productive years of peoples lives and subsidizing failure?

It's just an extension of the implicit agreement among individuals proselytizing progressive ideology: "I won't say you're wrong if you won't say I'm wrong." It's nothing more than boldfaced denial of responsibility. Eventually you run out of people to blame and money to steal though.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On topic (unless racism is the new topic), what about all the failed social programs I listed? How does society benefit from prolonging the least productive years of peoples lives and subsidizing failure?

It's just an extension of the implicit agreement among individuals proselytizing progressive ideology: "I won't say you're wrong if you won't say I'm wrong." It's nothing more than boldfaced denial of responsibility. Eventually you run out of people to blame and money to steal though.

Im going to have to have you go into more specific detail into what you were thinking.

You listed a bunch of social programs, then you listed a bunch of corporations... I still am not sure what you were getting at with that post.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OIt's just an extension of the implicit agreement among individuals proselytizing progressive ideology: "I won't say you're wrong if you won't say I'm wrong." It's nothing more than boldfaced denial of responsibility. Eventually you run out of people to blame and money to steal though.

I want to address this though... the way I see the two systems is

Conservatives: Society wants people to behave a certain way, so it creates laws that make people behave the way it wants you to.

Progressive: Looks at the way people behave, crates programs based on that behavior to help facilitate positive change. If you don't want to change, that's ok, it's your right.

Conservatism is Idealistic and progressivism is realistic. One is free the other is oppressive.

Makes no sense to me that conservatives tout the word freedom while imposing social laws on people time and time again.

*edit* side note - 60% military tax spending is steeling money from me for something that I am not just morally against but economically against.

I have no voice in 60% of my taxes, in my FREE country... if anyone is steeling anything, its the conservative party.

[am0n]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On topic (unless racism is the new topic),...

Racism is always IRYD's topic. She has a boner for racism.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you neocons[/U]

Good one