what class combo do you suggest?

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure if you run around meleeing your mobs with a caster it starts out cheap. But if you want to keep up with a near nekid melee class to start, you need more than just newbie drop armor.

This isn't my experience, and let's just leave it at that since you seem to think it is. I don't really know what else to tell you. My junk gear casters do things that I wouldn't even conceive of doing with much better equipped tanks or melee dps; you don't need anything to solo effectively as an enchanter even as you gain levels. It's how the game is designed.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't my experience, and let's just leave it at that since you seem to think it is.

We could leave it at that...

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really know what else to tell you. My junk gear casters do things that I wouldn't even conceive of doing with much better equipped tanks or melee dps; you don't need anything to solo effectively as an enchanter even as you gain levels. It's how the game is designed.

..Oh wait, but you're not... heh. You mean me leave it at that and you go on and on uh-huh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen caster like you describe, constantly face down in the dirtnap position, oh yeah. Well, apart from the few that kept just enough mana to gate out if they are lucky to avoid getting disrupted as the casting timer bar moves. But hopefully you have a priest around to increase your movement speed or toss you a heal, or a half nekid melee with taunt and the health pool to absorb the mobs as you run [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even clerics in leather are less squishy or not as prone to dirtnaps when things don't go quite as intended (soloish vs undead anyway). But even then, they loose little to no xp. Seriously, we'd all be playing casters if they were so great.

[Raev]

I really don't see how anyone can dispute that melee gain more from gear than casters. Caster itemization in classic EQ is simply terrible. I mean, lets think about this:

• Classic: casters get pure stat gear, it's pointless
• Kunark: VP/Epic clickies are nice, but meh
• Velious: FT is +1-3 mana per tick (+3-10%). OK, we're getting warmer.
• Luclin: Finally Verant implements focus effects and gear starts to matter.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see how anyone can dispute that melee gain more from gear than casters. Caster itemization in classic EQ is simply terrible.

Yeah, I played a wizard to 59 in velious era, never much cared about gear. The gains are miniscule on nearly all items you could pick up.

Other classes are part of defeating dungeon/raid content and all that, which is why people play them. But if you want to solo with nothing but junk, casters are for you.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I played a wizard to 59 in velious era, never much cared about gear. The gains are miniscule on nearly all items you could pick up.

Other classes are part of defeating dungeon/raid content and all that, which is why people play them. But if you want to solo with nothing but junk, casters are for you.

Which game?
Meanwhile a ranger can level with just a couple 1h swords and non-stat food and water, going nearly non-stop since the tiny mana pool still wont 0m as quickly as a caster which heavily relies on mana. Casters the master race, nope. Actual mechanics tend to try to balance things out, but in different ways. That's this game.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see how anyone can dispute that melee gain more from gear than casters. Caster itemization in classic EQ is simply terrible. I mean, lets think about this:

• Classic: casters get pure stat gear, it's pointless
• Kunark: VP/Epic clickies are nice, but meh
• Velious: FT is +1-3 mana per tick (+3-10%). OK, we're getting warmer.
• Luclin: Finally Verant implements focus effects and gear starts to matter.

Even FT is only the absolute top end stuff in Velious. Generally, unless you raid high end things, you'll never see any.

[Lojik]

Iks nec and iks shm...great synergy. At low levels the nec will carry you guys, and at high level the shaman really starts to shine. Low levels shaman is kinda weak, but get yourself an initiate symbol of cazic thule and the shm can keep all undead feared while the nec sticks pet and snares. Just get the shm a decent melee weapon. Tons of great undead places to kill near cab, and with the Warrens the symbol quest is easy now. If I'm on I can probably get you the faction you need in 1 hour. There are good undead to fear kite up through 53 or 54, by which time the shaman will be very strong. While shaman can be expensive if you want to be a solo god,they don't take much to be a great duo partner.