If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

Yes.

1. Atheists can be happy, balanced, moral, and intellectually fulfilled.

'The Faithful' can be happy, balanced, moral, and intellectually-fulfilled.

2. Natural selection and similar scientific theories are superior to a "God hypothesis" —the illusion of intelligent design— in explaining the living world and the cosmos.

Natural selection and similar scientific theories can go hand in hand with intelligent design. People can believe in science as well as a God.

3. Children should not be labelled by their parents' religion. Terms like "Catholic child" or "Muslim child" should make people cringe.

By that same note, children shouldn't be labeled by their parent's finances. Terms like "Middle class child", "Upper class child", should make people cringe as well.

4. Atheists should be proud, not apologetic, because atheism is evidence of a healthy, independent mind.

The evidence of a healthy, independent mind is a healthy, independent mind.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes.


Natural selection and similar scientific theories can go hand in hand withe intelligent design. People can believe in science as well as a God.

Believing in god and believing in creationism are on different scales there.

The "I'm a scientist, I believe in reason and logic and facts. but there has to be something more to life" is one type of believer.

I don't really have a word for creationism that isn't demeaning. I'm sorry...

But they teach it in school in the states so it has to be true.

And people can not believe in science and in creationism no. they are in conflict, to believe in creationism you have to be newborn or have been kept in a box all your life.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. Did Nilbog just indicate that he believes in intelligent design? Fuck, Kunark isn't ever coming out.

I didn't indicate anything other than having an open mind and objective opinion.

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believing in god and believing in creationism are on different scales there.

The "I'm a scientist, I believe in reason and logic and facts. but there has to be something more to life" is one type of believer.

I don't really have a word for creationism that isn't demeaning. I'm sorry...

But they teach it in school in the states so it has to be true.

And people can not believe in science and in creationism no. they are in conflict, to believe in creationism you have to be newborn or have been kept in a box all your life.

so it has to be

people can not believe

you have to be

or have been

It is exceedingly hard to debate with you if you generalize everything with absolutes, because that's crazy. With almost 7 billion humans on earth, you are not going to convince me otherwise.