Enchanter vs Bard

[Loke]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

aoe mez is the best!

level 57+ its basically the most op thing on the market.

I mean you might even get to a point where you replace your level 4 mez with aoe mez and just give zero fucks because you want more spell gems avail.

also aoe slow for shaman basically makes all enchanters go [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] in group situations because their CC suddenly feels worthless.

I think he was talking about bard AoE mez, not chanter. Chanter AoE mez is indeed the best, it is almost always my number 1 spell gem and I rarely use any other mez. I havent really used Bard AoE mez since the early Kunark nerf, so not sure if it is still worthless, but I'm pretty sure it isn't ridiculously OP like it used to be.

Edit: I think the reason the wiki claims it doesnt work as well 25+ is because it used to work amazingly well 25+, and in contrast it is a far cry from what it used to be. Bards used to be able to lock down entire end game zones, and unless things have changed, they definitely can't anymore. It might still be situationally useful now, especially at lower levels, but I highly doubt many 50+ bards are using it with any regularity.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he was talking about bard AoE mez, not chanter. Chanter AoE mez is indeed the best, it is almost always my number 1 spell gem and I rarely use any other mez. I havent really used Bard AoE mez since the early Kunark nerf, so not sure if it is still worthless, but I'm pretty sure it isn't ridiculously OP like it used to be.

Edit: I think the reason the wiki claims it doesnt work as well 25+ is because it used to work amazingly well 25+, and in contrast it is a far cry from what it used to be. Bards used to be able to lock down entire end game zones, and unless things have changed, they definitely can't anymore. It might still be situationally useful now, especially at lower levels, but I highly doubt many 50+ bards are using it with any regularity.

Seems to work fine on 30+ mobs. In my experience it gets resisted about as often as any chanter mez, single target or group. It's irritating for it to get resisted once out of six mobs and then get bashed out of the song, sure; I think this is where people get agitated about it. But it definitely works.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he was talking about bard AoE mez, not chanter. Chanter AoE mez is indeed the best, it is almost always my number 1 spell gem and I rarely use any other mez. I havent really used Bard AoE mez since the early Kunark nerf, so not sure if it is still worthless, but I'm pretty sure it isn't ridiculously OP like it used to be.

Edit: I think the reason the wiki claims it doesnt work as well 25+ is because it used to work amazingly well 25+, and in contrast it is a far cry from what it used to be. Bards used to be able to lock down entire end game zones, and unless things have changed, they definitely can't anymore. It might still be situationally useful now, especially at lower levels, but I highly doubt many 50+ bards are using it with any regularity.

ah yes my bad heh!

[nhdjoseywales]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he was talking about bard AoE mez, not chanter. Chanter AoE mez is indeed the best, it is almost always my number 1 spell gem and I rarely use any other mez. I havent really used Bard AoE mez since the early Kunark nerf, so not sure if it is still worthless, but I'm pretty sure it isn't ridiculously OP like it used to be.

Edit: I think the reason the wiki claims it doesnt work as well 25+ is because it used to work amazingly well 25+, and in contrast it is a far cry from what it used to be. Bards used to be able to lock down entire end game zones, and unless things have changed, they definitely can't anymore. It might still be situationally useful now, especially at lower levels, but I highly doubt many 50+ bards are using it with any regularity.

Funny story....when i moved back to live and rolled a chanter on Lockjaw i ran into several folks who felt they needed to "tell me how to play an enchanter" and how they never ever use ae mezz and how useless it is. I still laugh at those people. It works even better on live becasue you can overwrite it with longer duration mezzes. I cant count the number of times ae mezz has saved the groups ass from an accidental or intentional train. And of course the time i was out of grouping the chanter for buffs and nukes and the in group druid freaked out and evaced my wizzies group. Ae mezz, origin, problem solved.