If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Japan]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but you see, at some point we did come from primates right? So in this theory that you've postalized then there would still be a need for some of these monkeys to become humans in order to survive as we continue to kill off their natural habitats thus forcing out their food supply vs population and forcing someone to survive and some to fail. So right now this process would still be happening. Same would be true for a human that is forced to live out in the caves, and do things only at night he would 'devolve' to suit his condition better right?

You are ignorant of the nature of evolution. This process is still happening, by definition, as long as organisms are reproducing. To imply that a human would change genetically after his birth is a ludicrous misunderstanding of biology.

Never in the Bible did it say that man can't adapt, that God's creation can't change in order to be better at things. That's why we practice, it's not because our bodies don't have the ability to do things, it's that we haven't learned how to do them, or haven't learned how to do them as effectively as possible.

non-sequitur, unless you're confusing genetic variation with learned behavior in which case lol

If evolution were true, then how is it that just innately that some people in today's generation have 0 physical ability to do something athletic. The skinny guys, and girls who end up behind a computer with the typical stereotype...

False premise, once again apparent confusion of genetic variation with physical conditioning

My friend's Uncle, was one of the healthiest, best athletes, and just all around just the ideal physical specimen. Yet Thanksgiving day he wakes up out of nowhere with this huge pain in his stomach, goes to the hospital, and they found a tumor the size of a football in his stomach. They found out that it was cancerous and told him he had a couple of weeks, to a couple of months to live. So this is something that science proved to in fact be real, and be there.

Yet, a few weeks later he went back in and without surgery, without anything going on because they didn't think chemo was worth it, the tumor was gone, and he was given a 100% clean bill of health.

What does your science have to say about that? Cause I know what the non-Christian doctor said. And I assure you it had nothing to do with science, medicine or anything else 'tangible'

Oh no! An unfalsifiable anecdotal story with no supporting evidence! Evolution has been disproved.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

non-sequitur, unless you're confusing genetic variation with learned behavior in which case lol

Hardly so, you fail to comprehend the complexity of what I'm talking about apparently. I was trying to dumb it down for you, since you fail to understand anything else I have to say.

False premise, once again apparent confusion of genetic variation with physical conditioning

Again, you fail to comprehend what is going on here, can you please wake up and see what's going on?

Oh no! An unfalsifiable anecdotal story with no supporting evidence! Evolution has been disproved.

See, if this were anecdotal then you'd have something, but this isn't a story I made up, this is something that is very real, and very verifiable by not only that doctor, but by this man's family, and by his church, and his community.

The huge misconception that you have here, is that the burden of proof is on me to DISprove the THEORY of evolution. So, good luck, continue to postulate on the your theory, and laugh at real life situations. Sad life you have buddy.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See, if this were anecdotal then you'd have something, but this isn't a story I made up, this is something that is very real, and very verifiable by not only that doctor, but by this man's family, and by his church, and his community.

The huge misconception that you have here, is that the burden of proof is on me to DISprove the THEORY of evolution. So, good luck, continue to postulate on the your theory, and laugh at real life situations. Sad life you have buddy.

you're stupid and arguing for religion just makes you look even worse. give it up, your god isn't real. the church worked long ago because people were stupid. people aren't stupid anymore. live in the now. realize that faith in the christian god is a justification of being ignorant, racist, and violent toward other people.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're stupid and arguing for religion just makes you look even worse. give it up, your god isn't real. the church worked long ago because people were stupid. people aren't stupid anymore. live in the now. realize that faith in the christian god is a justification of being ignorant, racist, and violent toward other people.

You can call me stupid, and you can say I look bad. That's fine, I do live in the now, and God still works, and God is still present.

At no point am I racist, ignorant, or violent. But nice job trying to force that on me, and pigeon hole me into what your misconception of a Christian is.

[purist]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The huge misconception that you have here, is that the burden of proof is on me to DISprove the THEORY of evolution.

I can only assume that you emphasize the word 'theory' here out of a mistaken belief that the word 'theory' carries the same connotations in the world of science as it does in our everyday use of the word. That is, of being an unproven, undetermined or hypothetical belief. And therefore allowing you to dismiss evolution as "just a theory!"

No, it is as factual of "a theory" as the THEORY of gravity, or the THEORY of atoms or the THEORY of germs.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can only assume that you emphasize the word 'theory' here out of a mistaken belief that the word 'theory' carries the same connotations in the world of science as it does in our everyday use of the word. That is, of being an unproven, undetermined or hypothetical belief. And therefore allowing you to dismiss evolution as "just a theory!"

No, it is as factual of "a theory" as the THEORY of gravity, or the THEORY of atoms or the THEORY of germs.

Sadly in order to tell you that this isn't worthy of a response, I must respond, but I respond only to tell you that you're wrong.

[purist]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sadly in order to tell you that this isn't worthy of a response, I must respond, but I respond only to tell you that you're wrong.

In science, the word "theory" does not mean the same thing as it does in the detective novels you read, where a "theory" is an educated guess based on a few circumstantial facts.

Question: Do you just walk around, positing that the phenomenon of gravity is "just a theory?" Do you think the belief that microorganisms cause disease is "just another theory?" Is our understanding of atoms "just a theory?"

No, these are well-substantiated explanations, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed. Walking around, suggesting that evolution is "just a theory" is no more absurd than saying any of the above are "just theories," and makes you look like a complete retard.