not cool, nilbog!

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you entirely misunderstand the "its classic" line of thinking i'm describing. Let me interpret for you, since you seem to be taking what I say hyper-literally.

"It's classic" or "Its a part of the classic experience" means "as classic as possible within any inherent limitations, including but not limited to developer staff manhours, priority shifts, implementation problems, lack of knowledge, or other reasons."

Basically, I'm saying that wherever something is "inconsistent," there's a reasonable or pragmatic reason it's not that way - even if that reason is purely because the devs don't want to bother fixing the inconsistency or simply don't care enough to fix it (and for very minor or unimportant issues - I sympathize).

But the "it's classic" line of thinking isn't completely invalid just because in some cases things do not work exactly classicly - and could be implemented, but aren't. The Classic experience *still is* the guideline for nearly everything on the server, and although I don't have specific links or explanations for the ones you've provided - every "inconsistency" i've read has been thoroughly explained by Nilbog at least once. Because every single time an inconsistency arises, it is explained rationally and sufficiently, I generally assume there is a specific reason it has been left "unclassic." Even if that reason isn't a specific implementation or knowledge problem. Just because I don't know the specific explanation does not then relegate the "the reason things are X is because of an attempt to mirror the classic experience" line of thinking to being invalid.

Would it make you feel more fuzzy and warm if I changed my words to say "It follows the general parameters of the classic experience, within a limited set of parameters" every time I want to say "it's classic" or "part of the classic experience?" Is that exact enough for you? Because the reason the exp penalty still exists really is because it mirrors the classic experience. That's a fact. Nilbog could remove it, but he specifically said he left it there because it was "part of the classic experience."


Now that i've spent all of that time to explain it - can you see why people consider what you're doing nitpicking?

Way to get owned, then try and spin what you said earlier. good job. someone has spent sometime on a forum before....Harrison, annoying as he may be, is correct... Using the "It isn't classic" argument is getting fucking old when so many elements in p99 aren't classic.

"No, I mean It's semi, kinda,sorta, almost, near, not exactly,as humanly possible, part of the classic experience"... give me a break.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Way to get owned, then try and spin what you said earlier. good job. someone has spent sometime on a forum before....Harrison, annoying as he may be, is correct... Using the "It isn't classic" argument is getting fucking old when so many elements in p99 aren't classic.

"No, I mean It's semi, kinda,sorta, almost, near, not exactly,as humanly possible, part of the classic experience"... give me a break.

Not my fault you're too lazy to read. It takes time to untangle the garbage that malcontents like you throw around on this forum. I wonder why you're even here, given how much hatred (or you just like to seem that way on an online forum) you seem to have for the staff.

In some respects, the line is drawn arbitrarily by the devs. If you don't like it, go cry. Devs have made it clear over and over they don't give a crap about anybody who plays.

Ironically, arbitrary is an arbitrary word. Your use of logic is fairly arbitrary. Roll up the "hardcore literalist" dial for "OMG ITS NOT CLASSIC," roll it back when someone rationally explains that intent is different from reality, but intent still has value.

If you wanted to actually "own" me, you'd try to prove that the devs don't really "intend" to produce the classic experience. But I doubt you really tried to comprehend anything I said. It probably feels too good to attack people over the internet.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not my fault you're too lazy to read. It takes time to untangle the garbage that malcontents like you throw around on this forum. I wonder why you're even here, given how much hatred (or you just like to seem that way on an online forum) you seem to have for the staff.



Ironically, arbitrary is an arbitrary word. Your use of logic is fairly arbitrary. Roll up the "hardcore literalist" dial for "OMG ITS NOT CLASSIC," roll it back when someone rationally explains that intent is different from reality, but intent still has value.

If you wanted to actually "own" me, you'd try to prove that the devs don't really "intend" to produce the classic experience. But I doubt you really tried to comprehend anything I said. It probably feels too good to attack people over the internet.

My bad on the quote - that's actually someone else. I blended your two names when I went to reply and quoted someone else who I saw get shut down for the same reason (complaining about the "not classic" thing).

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not my fault you're too lazy to read. It takes time to untangle the garbage that malcontents like you throw around on this forum. I wonder why you're even here, given how much hatred (or you just like to seem that way on an online forum) you seem to have for the staff.



Ironically, arbitrary is an arbitrary word. Your use of logic is fairly arbitrary. Roll up the "hardcore literalist" dial for "OMG ITS NOT CLASSIC," roll it back when someone rationally explains that intent is different from reality, but intent still has value.

If you wanted to actually "own" me, you'd try to prove that the devs don't really "intend" to produce the classic experience. But I doubt you really tried to comprehend anything I said. It probably feels too good to attack people over the internet.

Did you really just claim I'm to lazy to read, then you go and make up something up that I didn't say or insinuate? ... "it seems like I have a lot of hatred for the staff and the server ? " Luluzlzuluzluzlzulzulzulzuz fail troll is fail.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you really just claim I'm to lazy to read, then you go and make up something up that I didn't say or insinuate? ... "it seems like I have a lot of hatred for the staff and the server ? " Luluzlzuluzluzlzulzulzulzuz fail troll is fail.

Look one post down from that one. I think you missed the post where I actually said "my bad" and explained that I made a mistake. Hopefully you're brushing up on your reading apart from your ventures into NSFW/R&F.

That's something trolls do often - you know, admit mistakes.

But you couldn't tell the difference in reason between proving intent and reality, so I guess I shouldn't expect so much from you.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look one post down from that one. I think you missed the post where I actually said "my bad" and explained that I made a mistake. Hopefully you're brushing up on your reading apart from your ventures into NSFW/R&F.

That's something trolls do often - you know, admit mistakes.

But you couldn't tell the difference in reason between proving intent and reality, so I guess I shouldn't expect so much from you.

Admitting your mistake doesn't make you less of a idiot. K thx.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Admitting your mistake doesn't make you less of a idiot. K thx.

Oh noez! Massive Marc used the "K thx" forum language that means he wins! You saw it here folks - Massive Marc is superior to me in this internet forum. Clearly his knowledge of "forum deathmatch" has surpassed mine - indeed he is a worthy adversary. I'm just lucky he didn't go as far as "K thx bye" or even the dreaded "Kthxbye"!

[Aanelan]

lol @ the Dickfest tag