Big Thanks to Cloki from Omni

[ridiculousmoose]

I may be misunderstanding here... but aren't you guys saying the ONLY dains that will spawn now are the 'bugged' dain's from the ring event since the 'exploiters' are doing this every day?

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by ridiculousmoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I may be misunderstanding here... but aren't you guys saying the ONLY dains that will spawn now are the 'bugged' dain's from the ring event since the 'exploiters' are doing this every day?

Yup,welcome to p99. where FAT does shady shit and act superior

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup,welcome to p99. where FAT does shady shit and act superior

Lol blame FAT even thought Rampage is the ones that tried the last 2 ring wars and we havent touched it, then BDA is grandstanding in here and decides to go for said exploited dains.

Good logic

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol blame FAT even thought Rampage is the ones that tried the last 2 ring wars and we havent touched it, then BDA is grandstanding in here and decides to go for said exploited dains.

Good logic

Because we totally had 100+ people on them exploited dains like you no lifes,no wonder we left after watching you all drool over pixel dick

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because we totally had 100+ people on them exploited dains like you no lifes,no wonder we left after watching you all drool over pixel dick

So you camped there not intending to kill the Dains you have claimed are exploited for a week now? Just saying hi, were you?

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by ridiculousmoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I may be misunderstanding here... but aren't you guys saying the ONLY dains that will spawn now are the 'bugged' dain's from the ring event since the 'exploiters' are doing this every day?

There has been 4 ring wars total spawned. Resulting in 2 extra dains than what have normally spawned. Every time a ring war occurs it moves the spawn timer window to the next time he dies +- 8 hours plus 1 week from when he dies. He has not gotten his expected weekly death due to ring wars occurring.

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because we totally had 100+ people on them exploited dains like you no lifes,no wonder we left after watching you all drool over pixel dick

You were literally one of the people camped out for dain before bailing out with 10 or 15 min left in window. You didn't have good numbers, the presumption is you went for something uncontested in VP.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol blame FAT even thought Rampage is the ones that tried the last 2 ring wars and we havent touched it, then BDA is grandstanding in here and decides to go for said exploited dains.

Good logic

Am I just not getting something correctly here or are you just using words to make it seem like something is being exploited? Isn't the current Ring War more difficult than it should be because of how bugged it is?

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Am I just not getting something correctly here or are you just using words to make it seem like something is being exploited? Isn't the current Ring War more difficult than it should be because of how bugged it is?

Current form of ring war is very hard and has yet to be beaten, it provides the last challenge to be had on this server. It is perhaps an overtuned encounter currently, but is still believed to be beatable by FAT/Rapinity alliances.

The bug occurs after the encounter is lost, it causes a repop of dain 2 hours later after the ring war failure.

It is BDA's stance since the ring war is unbeatable by them, so it should not be triggered nor should the dain be attempted to be killed. This however has not stopped them from attempting to kill that bugged dain 2 out of the last 4 dains spawned in this manner.

Omni holds similar view, however has made no attempts to kill dain.

Guilds that have killed this dain hold the stance that 2 warlords must be killed (which represents and is a legitimate attempt to complete the ring war) to earn that dain that spawned uncontested. Failure to do so results in dain being FFA.

BDA and Omni expect the dain to be left up and not killed by any guild that attempted the ring war and failed. Presumably so that they get the dain uncontested, as they have no apparent intentions to even try a ring war at this time.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Current form of ring war is very hard and has yet to be beaten, it provides the last challenge to be had on this server. It is perhaps an overtuned encounter currently, but is still believed to be beatable by FAT/Rapinity alliances.

The bug occurs after the encounter is lost, it causes a repop of dain 2 hours later after the ring war failure.

It is BDA's stance since the ring war is unbeatable by them, so it should not be triggered nor should the dain be attempted to be killed. This however has not stopped them from attempting to kill that bugged dain 2 out of the last 4 dains spawned in this manner.

Omni holds similar view, however has made no attempts to kill dain.

Guilds that have killed this dain hold the stance that 2 warlords must be killed (which represents and is a legitimate attempt to complete the ring war) to earn that dain that spawned uncontested. Failure to do so results in dain being FFA.

BDA and Omni expect the dain to be left up and not killed by any guild that attempted the ring war and failed. Presumably so that they get the dain uncontested, as they have no apparent intentions to even try a ring war at this time.

Please don't twist my views. My thoughts are that since the ring war is fundamentally unwinnable (and that means unwinnable by everyone, not just BDA) that guilds shouldn't be triggering ring wars period until the encounter is properly tuned.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please don't twist my views. My thoughts are that since the ring war is fundamentally unwinnable (and that means unwinnable by everyone, not just BDA) that guilds shouldn't be triggering ring wars period until the encounter is properly tuned.

The ring war seems pretty consistent to what I recall from live. The last wave problem that I see is that you have to damage the mobs to around 96% and stay in mellee range to stop them from running. On live you didn't have to damage them that low. You did have to damage them and stay in mellee range though. There are ways to control that if you are making sure every mob gets slowed though. Plenty of Monk and Warriors have been at these attempts.