Big Thanks to Cloki from Omni

[Vianna]

Let's just get back to comparing Cloki's post to reality for a second because I think this was missed...

Cloki's post.

Originally Posted by Cloki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ringwar may indeed be winnable. But so far the server is 0-fer on it. Winnable and tuned properly are two different things. Don't conflate them.

There's an easy answer to this: Fix the fucking Dain bug.

Fix the fucking ring war.

Don't exploit broken stuff.

The ring war is a jewel in the crown of velious. A really, really neat event that should have been completed many, many times in more than 4 months of velious. We're all better players, better geared, and better mechanically than we were on live. And we were doing it 4 months in with ~40 people on Druzzil.

It's broken. Fix it. But don't try to game what's broken for loot.

(if the staff is unable or unwilling to fix the Dain bug, it should be an easy thing to DT the should-not-have-been-spawned Dain...)

Now Reality...

Originally Posted by Ternada [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Ternada View Post
Oct 29 2001 at 2:14 PMRating: Good
Ternada
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We completed the 10th Ring War for the first time on Druzzil Saturday, and it was a total blast. Some things to keep in mind:

- The giants are *NOT* kitable anymore. Their follow range was changed to basically melee range, so if you aren't directly engaged with a giant it will ignore you and beeline for Thurg.

- Two lines of Kromrif Spearmen will spawn. One not far East of the River in sight of the wurm caves, one farther West, towards the portal. These have a nasty ranged attack, but do not move. It is important to never TOUCH these, as if damaged, they'll start summoning EVERYONE to their deaths.

- The giants will spawn in three places: At the Wizard spires near EW zone (group of 6), South of the river (group of 10+leader), and West of the western Spearmen line (group of 10+leader).

- When Narandi spawns, he will be near the wurm cave, and will make a break in the direction of the EW zone. If he is allowed to despawn, the War is a draw. He FLURRIES, so every available person needs to get to him ASAP.

Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

I don't know where this info is coming from, but it may be better than my memory. I was fairly certain that Seekers and L'Malla and HoSS had the ringwar on farm mode with those numbers during the spring/summer prior to SoL. I do recall participating in a number of successful 10s, pre-SoL as a guest of HoSS. Although I have piles of screenshots from that era, I don't have any logs. I apologize if I'm wrong about it and trivialized its difficulty in that era.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know where this info is coming from, but it may be better than my memory. I was fairly certain that Seekers and L'Malla and HoSS had the ringwar on farm mode with those numbers during the spring/summer prior to SoL. I do recall participating in a number of successful 10s, pre-SoL as a guest of HoSS. Although I have piles of screenshots from that era, I don't have any logs. I apologize if I'm wrong about it and trivialized its difficulty in that era.

Ternada D'spite who was in HoSS was the person who made the post. Was a Cleric in the guild.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

When did you get so salty Vianna? I never remembered that about you.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did you get so salty Vianna? I never remembered that about you.

Not Salty at all. Just providing truth to the discussion. People say many things to win a discussion. As I said I mean no offense.

[Decad]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's just get back to comparing Cloki's post to reality for a second because I think this was missed...

Cloki's post.



Now Reality...




Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

Not here to take sides but the first ring war that was successfully completed wasn't so long either.

It was completed on May 18 2001 on Nameless, which is 5 month 13 days after launch. Check out tig post on this date. Maybe some of the top guilds on other servers finished it even sooner since Tig didn't claim it was a server wide first just a server first

http://legacyofsteel.net/#/archives

[arsenalpow]

And that's back in the day when the majority of players weren't even 60. It's a whole different scenario now. It's absurd to think that the ring war is the last piece of unbeaten content on p99 because players aren't good enough to beat it yet.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Decad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not here to take sides but the first ring war that was successfully completed wasn't so long either.

It was completed on May 18 2001 on Nameless, which is 5 month 13 days after launch. Check out tig post on this date. Maybe some of the top guilds on other servers finished it even sooner since Tig didn't claim it was a server wide first just a server first

http://legacyofsteel.net/#/archives

Server firsts and world firsts are different. The point remains Druzzil the server he claimed was being farmed with 40 in April wasn't. There was no way to do the ring war with 40 4 months into Velious.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server firsts and world firsts are different. The point remains Druzzil the server he claimed was being farmed with 40 in April wasn't. There was no way to do the ring war with 40 4 months into Velious.

I just don't understand why you are so anxious to crucify the guy as some sort of master of deception when his memory wasn't really that far off.

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't understand why you are so anxious to crucify the guy as some sort of master of deception when his memory wasn't really that far off.

That's how the internet works. You only argue in absolutes and crucify someone when they get small details wrong.