Server favors FAT! All other guilds just give up!

[Oleris]

I desynch every big fight whether or not we have FTE. ToV seems to be the exception besides a couple times.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Oleris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I desynch every big fight whether or not we have FTE. ToV seems to be the exception besides a couple times.

The point is:

200 in zone doesn't exactly desync the whole zone. 200 in zone in the same area with idiots standing on top of each other and spam casting BS, IS THE PROBLEM.

IMO, this affects the functionality of the server. Which leads to...well staff injection in to this matter. BUT, that isn't necessarily going to happen.

Also my opinion is the scum action of desyncing a guild or FAT, heh, is the same thing as training on purpose. Just my opinion.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is:
IMO, this affects the functionality of the server. Which leads to...well staff injection in to this matter. BUT, that isn't necessarily going to happen.

Also my opinion is the scum action of desyncing a guild or FAT, heh, is the same thing as training on purpose. Just my opinion.

Actually, this is tantamount to DDoSing the server.

RIP

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did that telk attempt go for BDA today?

Not well after Forsaken took Telk on a magical mystery tour of NToV bringing a bunch of KOS shit back into the west wing, then Divinity who had been farming trash in the west wing for a few hours decided to try and get a pull in too, then eventually after stalling enough forsaken managed to get the pull in.

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not well after Forsaken took Telk on a magical mystery tour of NToV bringing a bunch of KOS shit back into the west wing, then Divinity who had been farming trash in the west wing for a few hours decided to try and get a pull in too, then eventually after stalling enough forsaken managed to get the pull in.

Rules don't fucking matter

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what rules exactly were broken?

stalling,and the fact that ALL guilds in ToV must start at entrance for a pull. you can't park under the dam mob.TL pulling when you shouldnt even be able to is also an infraction. get a better lawyer detoxx

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand that reading can be challenging but it is also fundamental. Exactly who was camped out under telk to pull? The person who pet pulled ran there from the entrance. You could bind in ToV on live so exactly how is binding in ToV now an infraction?

You don't have to ALL start from the entrance, the current rule for ToV is that you cannot pull a raid mob from the wing your raid is set up in. Meaning Divinity pulling Telk while they were in WToV farming trash was an infraction. The entrance is just not a wing therefore you can pull any mob from any wing there. Thanks for proving that your incompetence extends past your play.



exactly, fraps or it didn't happen... the accuser has the burden of proof not the accused

Where in the raid rules does it talk about wings. It talks about zones, period. When I walk through the arches into West I don't zone. Your entire raid needs to start from the entrance (minus your two trackers) and you shouldn't be using any binds past the entrance to facilitate a pull, period.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what rules exactly were broken?

Originally Posted by Raid Policy

• Intentional training will be severely disciplined.
• Guilds are encouraged to work out disputes among themselves before involving the staff.
• All raid mobs provide an "FTE Shout" that show what guild has engaged. Kill stealing will be severely disciplined.
• Guilds may not have any more than two representatives present at a raid spawn location.
• To encourage competitive racing, guilds may not camp players out in the vicinity of raid targets.
• Invulnerability spells used on engagement may only be for mechanic strategies, and may not be used to stall engagement.

So the new pull seems to be getting CotH-ed into North to go get the tag, but prior to that get a TL box, then the puller takes his TL box to the West zone out. Hell, Rampage parked their entire raid force at the West zone out and then just logged in for the Nev kill.

Originally Posted by Sirken

Q16: Are we allowed to bind at raid mobs? And/or camp out toons at raid mobs?
A: Absolutely not.

So people are bound at places that aren't the entrance, that's not ok whatsoever.

Telk also didn't get pulled directly to camp. After Kimchi took FTE he gated up near Mischief because he was bound up there, thus buying Forsaken time to pull entrance mobs away to work a pull. You bring the mob directly to a raid, not up into North, then back down South.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Parking at the WToV zone out is more than allowed as long as they don't engage any WToV bosses while they are set up in WToV. Basically the pulls consist of a Coth from a tracker and a FTE from someone at the zone, explain how that doesn't follow the raid rules.

How is him gating north being bound near the raid mob in question?

Telk took 4 mallet charges and kept running north from what I have heard, he was also pulled off of the train at one point by someone not associated with the FTE which is also an infraction I believe.

Even on live you were able to bind at PoM if you chose to.

There's no point in discussing this with you. I'll just go with what Sirken or Rogean have to say. The rules are clear cut, you developed your own interpretation of those rules to facilitate your agenda. That's the status quo on this server, push the limit until you get punished.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Parking at the WToV zone out is more than allowed as long as they don't engage any WToV bosses while they are set up in WToV. Basically the pulls consist of a Coth from a tracker and a FTE from someone at the zone, explain how that doesn't follow the raid rules.

How is him gating north being bound near the raid mob in question?

Telk took 4 mallet charges and kept running north from what I have heard, he was also pulled off of the train at one point by someone not associated with the FTE which is also an infraction I believe.

Even on live you were able to bind at PoM if you chose to.

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