Ragnaros and Reebz: The Dynamic Duo

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Bionic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why limit your statement "home invasions"? Why not extend your parameters to include robberies, assaults, car thefts, etc. Does it fall apart once the more situations are introduced, thereby negating your talking point? Tell me, do your stats include occurrences where the intruder ran after hearing a shell being chambered, or is it only contained to those in which shots were fired? Please provide a link to data on which your statement is derived.[/COLOR][/B]

Because home invasions is the fantasy scenario gun owners use to justify keeping a firearm in their home. So yeah I guess let's make a more fair comparison:

21,175 suicides by firearm in 2013 (the #1 method of suicide and #1 cause of firearms deaths)
8,454 homicide by firearm in 2013
5,782 by handguns
approx 600 accidental deaths by firearm per year

while
223 justifiable homicides (home intruders killed, statistic is inflated by ALL other justifiable homicides so in this scenario it would be much lower) 2013, out of 1,599,047 residential robberies committed the same year.

so, a gun is 94x more likely to be used by its owner to commit suicide than to kill someone in self defense. almost 38x more likely to be used in a homicide. over 2.6x as likely to kill an innocent bystander in a misfire accident.

there are no credible sources which have ever reported on defensive gun use, so there are no credible statistics for situations such as "flashes gun, person runs" sadly. the NRA won't even provide a statistic (LOL) but rather they cite anecdotal stories (because this is a fantasy scenario)

sources: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls
http://nyagv.org/wp-content/uploads/...ings-NYAGV.pdf