FYI

[xshayla701]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point being all items have some value to all players. Whether it's to sell and buy something they like, or to use directly. Why is having money to buy a nicer item more greedy than just having a nicer item? I have personally never rolled on an item to sell when someone in the group "needed" it. I just see both sides of the argument. No melee can solo an FBSS or SSoY. However all of them can solo the AC for a ring or Pyzjn for a GBS to sell. Does that make them bastards because some random caster wanted to camp Pyzjn or some random noob wanted to camp a ring? Obviously demanding an equal chance at such loot in a group is more immediate... But it's the same thing really. If you put in the same amount of time camping an item why are you a greedy bastard if you want to sell it for cash to buy, or directly trade it for something you would use? Maybe the person who is gonna equip the item is being more greedy because they feel that their being able to use it directly is more important than your need to use the cash from it to buy something else!! *shrug*

agree with this

but I thought the point of this argument against selling the Jboots ring MQ was because those who monopolize the AC camp and don't leave it for people who don't want to buy it but do want to camp the spawn for themselves? I don't think it would be bad to camp it when it's open (but really... when is it ever just open?), but there are people who switch off the spawn with their friend so that either themselves or their friend always has the camp.

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but there are people who switch off the spawn with their friend so that either themselves or their friend always has the camp.

Pretty easy to defeat that method, even assuming it actually happens.

As it is obviously not the case that two people have permanently monopolized the camp, get on the list and once you acquire the camp, publicly announce the list when people are added. Ask the next person on the list to do this as well.

This would ensure the list is honored, and would prevent such behavior as just passing the camp to a friend and having that friend pass it back to the first person as there should always be someone else on the list in between them.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty easy to defeat that method, even assuming it actually happens.

As it is obviously not the case that two people have permanently monopolized the camp, get on the list and once you acquire the camp, publicly announce the list when people are added. Ask the next person on the list to do this as well.

This would ensure the list is honored, and would prevent such behavior as just passing the camp to a friend and having that friend pass it back to the first person as there should always be someone else on the list in between them.

As per GM statements: Camps are handled by players, and can give them to whoever they want. Regardless of "lists" or anything.

If I want to forego the list entirely and give the camp to my friend, I can. It's up to the camp holder, not some arbitrarily chosen time of arrival.

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As per GM statements: Camps are handled by players, and can give them to whoever they want. Regardless of "lists" or anything.

If I want to forego the list entirely and give the camp to my friend, I can. It's up to the camp holder, not some arbitrarily chosen time of arrival.

Sure, you can.

If you want to risk your reputation and possibly end up blacklisted from future lists, go right ahead and discard a publicly announced list in favor of your own greed.

(I realize you're not necessarily saying you would do this, yourself)

Frontier justice that does not break any existing rules might be the way people need to go with things like this.

[Harrison]

My guild got pissed off at me for handing off camps to non-guildies because they were higher on the list.

I honor my spoken or unspoken deals. *shrug*

I'm one in a million it appears, however.