Spells: Bard Song Changes

[astuce999]

maybe the OP was thinking of ancient mez?

I first read this thread hoping there was finally some progress on implementing the push component back into bard mezzes.... but alas.

I remember kiting crocs in oasis at lvl 12 in classic using selo's, bellow, bellow in a 3 song twist.

I remember people talking about how a 3 song twist was the maximum unless you had one of those rare DSL connection, then you could play 4.

I remember having to target myself to play jonthan's, and how it made the song useless.

cheers

[BobSmith]

Here is some circumstantial evidence against a 12 second recast on all songs that dates from late 1999. Both snippets are taken from "newbie" guides, and explain how to twist songs, but neither mentions a 12 second recast, or any kind of recast delay.

Think about how you might explain twisting just two songs to a new bard. I would think that some mention of a recast would be critical.

Captured by the internet archive from "The Concert Hall" on "11/28/1999" (http://web.archive.org/web/199911280...per/nafai1.htm):

Also, learn to juggle early on and juggle your songs anytime you are in combat, even if one doesn’t have a huge effect—the practice will be invaluable. Juggling is the method of having the effects of two songs going at once. Song effects last a few seconds after you stop singing them, giving you time to fire another one off, stopping it after you see the effect start, going back to the original song, etc. This can be done with 2 songs reliably, and occasionally a third can be thrown in, although it is extremely rare for all three effects to be active at the same time.

Captured by the internet archive from "The Concert Hall" on "11/29/1999" (http://web.archive.org/web/199911290...per/cheryl.htm):

Twisting Your Songs

THIS SKILL IS ESSENTIAL. Twisting is a way to sing more than one song and get the affects of 2 to 3 songs at the same time. To do this simply sing a song until the affect takes hold, stop singing it and start another, (since most buffing songs have about a 5 second delay before the affect goes away you can sing another song, stop it and resing the last song before it goes away) thereby singing two songs at once.

I hope this guide has helped you, and remember you don't have to follow this guide exactly, this is just my advice on the best experience and loot for your newly born bard.

[BobSmith]

Here is more circumstantial evidence. This was captured on 10/5/1999 from "EQlizer" (http://web.archive.org/web/199910052...lass/bard.html). The bard class guide has no mention of a recast delay on songs in the section that briefly explains twisting.

Before we delve into spells it's important to note the way bard spells work. Bard spells will continually sing once you select the spell. They will loop until you deselect the spell or begin singing another song. There are two tactics which should be noted for bard song singing.

The first is song stacking. Each song has a duration. This duration will remain in effect for a few seconds after you stop singing a song. With a little practice you can toggle between singing different songs and get multiple spell effects up at one time. It takes a little practice but it's an invaluable tactic at higher levels.