How DOES faction work?

[dafier]

I am not playing the 'meta-game' faction thing, and I do just grind it out. I have my own factioning experience in game and I'm not sharing here because people can figure it out on their own.

My main goal is to get a response from staff who know the answers to the questions I am asking, if those questions aren't going to give away too much, so to speak.

You say 'No' to my first quesiton, but do you have a packet capture proving this? You better not, hence why I am hoping a Dev/Staff response with answers.

Your answers are helpful to the general public, but I am already aware of what you responded with. Thanks much though. I am not trying to debase you.

[kuuky]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have my own factioning experience in game and I'm not sharing here because people can figure it out on their own.

Treat me like I'm dumb (for all you know I am) and please do share!!!

[dafier]

Originally Posted by kuuky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Treat me like I'm dumb (for all you know I am) and please do share!!!

I apologize. That was poorly expressed. I have suspicions. I don't want to start rumors. I'd rather get answers.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not playing the 'meta-game' faction thing, and I do just grind it out. I have my own factioning experience in game and I'm not sharing here because people can figure it out on their own.

My main goal is to get a response from staff who know the answers to the questions I am asking, if those questions aren't going to give away too much, so to speak.

You say 'No' to my first quesiton, but do you have a packet capture proving this? You better not, hence why I am hoping a Dev/Staff response with answers.

Your answers are helpful to the general public, but I am already aware of what you responded with. Thanks much though. I am not trying to debase you.

How do you think people know enough about the faction hits to put them on the wiki? Information provided by devs, along with rigorous testing, theorycrafting, retesting, parsing and number crunching. People have calculated the exact faction levels for mobs that they weren't explicitly informed on by the devs. It's not hard to do. Kill as many of one giant as it takes to get max ally, calculate how many faction points per kill. People did it. You don't need packet pictures.


Always remember, this is a game for nerds, and nerds will always do the mathy shit.

[Zaela]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but do you have a packet capture proving this?

There are no packets for faction changes in any case. It's all server-side.

Edit: nothing with specific values, I mean -- obviously there's packets for the "Your faction standing with..." messages. Server decides when something proxy aggros you; server decides what happens when you interact with a quest mob; every con is a round trip to the server. Nothing the client needs to know about specific values.