Paris attack thread

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't like freedom of speech/expression? Get the fuck out.

He loves it so long as it conforms to his personal notion of respect. Of course, by his own logic, I could claim that he's not showing proper respect to the idea of free speech and justify murdering him on those grounds. Luckily for him, the only people insane enough to believe such an argument also happen to be fundamentalist crazies like himself.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He loves it so long as it conforms to his personal notion of respect. Of course, by his own logic, I could claim that he's not showing proper respect to the idea of free speech and justify murdering him on those grounds. Luckily for him, the only people insane enough to believe such an argument also happen to be fundamentalist crazies like himself.

Hardly. It looks like common sense logic to me and many Americans. Wonder what hospitality is like at the Orruar household. I certainly won't be counted among the guests.

'Help. We invited the snakes here and then stomped on them and everything they hold dear. They are very mad'


The position you just took makes yourself sound like a constitutional extremist of some kind.

"Freedom of speech" wasn't about degrading religious icons. It was about the right to degrade individuals and positions of power for the benefit of the people. I.E. liberty from tyrannical monarchs, nobles, and lords.

What is your stance on gun control? Can I own a fully automatic mini-14? Will you support my right to own and maintain an M60? I hope you are at least consistent.

How do you feel about no-scope warrants for personal computers? How is your position on the 4th?

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Freedom of speech" wasn't about degrading religious icons.

Stop being ignorant. Ever heard of the Jefferson Bible? Many would consider Jefferson's quite vocal opinions about Jesus to be degrading and that book, blasphemy.

That's what freedom of speech is about. It is especially about degrading religious icons.

[Kyff]

Those of you advocating the erection of walls, fences or such might be interested to hear that according to current investigations the terrorists were born and raised in Belgium and France. However, the society they grew up in seemed to have made a sub par job in raising them into good citizens.

I'm not sure gunning down all refugess is off the table after this revelation. Strong convictions are rarely altered by mere facts.

[Jahdu]

Originally Posted by Kyff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those of you advocating the erection of walls, fences or such might be interested to hear that according to current investigations the terrorists were born and raised in Belgium and France. However, the society they grew up in seemed to have made a sub par job in raising them into good citizens.

I'm not sure gunning down all refugess is off the table after this revelation. Strong convictions are rarely altered by mere facts.

Dude!!! You HAVE to build that wall!!! If you don't, immigrants will come over, take over your land, make you into a minority and generally screw you over.

If you think I'm being overly dramatic, just ask any Native American [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop being ignorant. Ever heard of the Jefferson Bible? Many would consider Jefferson's quite vocal opinions about Jesus to be degrading and that book, blasphemy.

That's what freedom of speech is about. It is especially about degrading religious icons.

Criticizing is not degrading, sir. That is all I have to say about that.

Jefferson and the founding fathers musings on religion was nothing but exploratory and scholarly.

A far cry from Charlie Hebdo doing a hatchet job on their prophet. Can you tell the difference between a hatchet piece of black cartoons versus a scholar like Jefferson writing down his musings and opinions in a CIVIL and acceptable format in what was practically his own fucking diary??

Nice strawman you made up. Jefferson merely criticized and attacked, never degrade. And the attacks were POLITICALLY relevant because Jesus was associated with a political superpower, the Church. Come again, friend.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A far cry from Charlie Hebdo doing a hatchet job on their prophet.

Tell me, do you think Charlie Hebdo should have been shuttered to save them from their own loose tongues, or should Jews and Christians have responded with similar violence for each offending publication directed at them?

Whether speech is polite or not, it should not be met with barbarity.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Criticizing is not degrading, sir.

Who gets to define where the difference lies? I mean, I know you and your people are the authority when it comes to degradation. If you're unsure of what I'm talking about, ask your women.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A far cry from Charlie Hebdo doing a hatchet job on their prophet. Can you tell the difference between a hatchet piece of black cartoons versus a scholar like Jefferson writing down his musings and opinions in a CIVIL and acceptable format in what was practically his own fucking diary??

If you respond to any kind of nonthreatening speech by escalating to violence, you don't belong in a civilization with free speech. Just like bible thumpers must deal with fedora atheists insulting their faith without pulling out the AK, so must others.

Not saying it makes fedoraing tasteful, only saying that people who can be triggered by words or a shitty drawing should and must be at every turn so their stupidity and inability to cope with a free exchange of ideas will cause them pain, and they might learn to grow to protect themselves.

Pretty much the same reason I say a lot of the things I say involving riggers and napes and unfeeling spelunkers on this board. I don't have a real problem with the blacks, they was kangs & kwaynz (Hannibal was black) before we took it all away and they deserve reparations from whites for being forced to live elsewhere than the heaven on earth that is their native land by the evil white Christian slavers who invented slavery, all of whom were white (none were black) and absolutely zero Jewish (zero, that is against the humanistic and egalitarian faith of the Talmud).

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you respond to any kind of nonthreatening speech by escalating to violence, you don't belong in a civilization with free speech. Just like bible thumpers must deal with fedora atheists insulting their faith without pulling out the AK, so must others.

I don't disagree. But if you are at recess and there is a known sperglord, you would avoid the interaction.

Passing out pamplets in the streets to the snakes of anti-snake god propaganda, and then labeling it satire and saying haha its cool man you gotta suck it up and laugh at your snake god with us, hes a fucking joke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And stuffing it in with free speech is just a cop out.

You invited the snakes and the snake god into your country, don't tread on the snakes. You knew what you were getting into. Inviting the snakes into your home and thinking you were going to subvert their belief in the snake god's gospel seems very idealist.

How about some realism.