If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Azazel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no doubt over the existance of Muhammad his life is well documented.

You can state something as a fact, but that doesn't make it true. The biographies of Muhammad came very late and the Uthman Qur'an follows his supposed death by many decades. So what do you have? Later recordings of oral tradition (again)? There's that story about the treaty or whatever with the monastery at... drawing a blank, need Google... ah, here it is. The Achtiname, his supposed agreement with the monks of St. Catherine's. The only problem is that the original document was somehow lost (oh no not again!) and all that's left is a copy from the sixteenth or seventeenth century. Anonymous scribes of the Church of the East wrote the Chronicle of Seert which supposedly references Muhammad but uh-oh it wasn't written until the ninth century.

I'd say there's quite a lot of doubt about the existence of Muhammad, but maybe we have different definitions of that word. If you mean there are a lot of copies of the Qur'an, I'll have to yield the point, if you will grant me that the existence of lots of Marvel comics means that Spiderman is a real guy, too.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say there's quite a lot of doubt about the existence of Muhammad, but maybe we have different definitions of that word. If you mean there are a lot of copies of the Qur'an, I'll have to yield the point, if you will grant me that the existence of lots of Marvel comics means that Spiderman is a real guy, too.

What the hell, are you implying Spiderman isn't real? But there are book and stories even movies about him, lots and lots of it too! How can he not be real? I have been devoting my life to worshiping him!!!! OMG!!!! OMG!!! OMG!!!