If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Pescador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am a biomedical engineer and a Christian. I spend my days researching tissue engineering (AHHHH STEM CELLS!!!!!!!!) but I also go to church and read articles on apologetics, and I love a good religious debate (there is ample opportunity for this, given the nature of most people I work with).

I'm sure many heads are exploding right now due to this paradox.

I think most of us are old enough to know that what passes for science in this country looks a whole lot like factory work involving rows and rows of test tubes. The biggest difference is that you likely have enormous student loans.

The only head under pressure from its own inflation is yours.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think most of us are old enough to know that what passes for science in this country looks a whole lot like factory work involving rows and rows of test tubes. The biggest difference is that you likely have enormous student loans.

The only head under pressure from its own inflation is yours.

umad brew?

Should really relax, if you can't see the purpose of his post was to say that not every Christian is anti-science (there's no reason for any of them to be imo, God created the rules of physics and science, it's only going to further prove Him the more we discover with our finite minds) and not every Scientist is a crazy Anti-creationist that is just out to prove how wrong the Bible is.

You'd think with all the 100s of thousands of anti-Christian zealots out there and as smart as they all are in comparison to Christians, how they couldn't have proven that Jesus didn't exist, and the accounts of the Bible are false.

If you know so much about the Bible maybe you could tell me a little bit about the history of the Bible.

How many different writers are there of the Bible?
How many years did it take to compile the Bible?
Is the Bible the only historical document to give accounts of the life of Jesus?

[Humerox]

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How many different writers are there of the Bible?
How many years did it take to compile the Bible?
Is the Bible the only historical document to give accounts of the life of Jesus?

Including...or not including...what the medieval Church decided to toss out?
Or what hasn't been found?

the bible is like a docudrama based on true events.

I'm pretty certain Jesus existed, but so did Siddhartha Gautama.

Meh.

[Beauregard]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty certain Jesus existed.

What gives you such certainty might I ask? It's fairly obvious he's a plagiarized mixture of other deities who didn't exist.

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[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Beauregard

I'm too stupid to argue. Here is a coloring book picture lawl!

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Beauregard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What gives you such certainty might I ask? It's fairly obvious he's a plagiarized mixture of other deities who didn't exist.

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Here lets break this down and show the non facts of your comic book story board
your board states Born of a virgin WRONG
In the Hebrew world of Jesus, a woman does not lose her virginity because she marries. A woman only loses her virginity through unfaithfulness. Hence, Anna a prophetess who was widowed (in the book of Luke) was still called a virgin even though she was married. She was not a Virgin the sense that we today think of a virgin.
Christ was conceived through Immaculate conception
Your story board states Born on Dec 25th.
Was he really born on Dec 25th NO
Was Jesus born on December 25? There is no evidence for this date. So then, who decided that Jesus' birth would be celebrated on that date? The early Christian church did not celebrate Jesus' birth. It wasn't until A.D. 440 that the church officially proclaimed December 25 as the birth of Christ. This was not based on any religious evidence but on a pagan feast. Saturnalia was a tradition inherited by the Roman pagans from an earlier Babylonian priesthood. December 25 was used as a celebration of the birthday of the sun god. It was observed near the winter solstice.

As to the star in the East there are lots of stars in the east so who can really say.

He had 12 Disciples
Well he had 12 Apostles but he had many Disciples
Disciples are people who followed him around and listed to his teachings
Apostles went out and spread his word

Dead for 3 days. Well that's how the story goes and it is the leap of faith that allows people to believe this

Resurrected Same as dead for 3 days you have to have faith

Is god something tangible you can hold in your hand no it is a leap of faith

Is evolutionism something you can hold in your hand no it is a theory with a lot of strong indicators that point to it being fact but it is still a theory.

But can you say for sure that God did not plan it that way.

You say well according to the bible the earth is only 6000 years old
Where does it say that in the beginning a day is only 24 hours long?
For all you know it could be thousands of years long.. I don't know what they ment. and you don't know what they ment.

The debate can rage on and on but neither side can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt god existence or non existence. I choose to believe in god. and that's my choice. does that make me dumb.
Only in so much as you "think" everyone who disagrees with you is dumb.
And frankly what you think of me does not matter one bit to me or probably to anyone else. Until you put food on my table a roof over my head and clothes on my family's backs then you really do not matter at all.. other than to the degree that God tells me I should be nice and kind to you.
So have a blessed day and life
God bless you all

[Japan]

^^^^^^^
wow

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God bless you all

Don't fucking bless me, I don't want your damn curses.

[quellren]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You say well according to the bible the earth is only 6000 years old
Where does it say that in the beginning a day is only 24 hours long?
For all you know it could be thousands of years long.. I don't know what they ment. and you don't know what they ment.

And thats the game.... thanks for coming.
As soon as someone plays the 'God doesn't have to play by the rules' card, there's no going back.
All logic and legitimacy to the discussion just went out the window.

sigh.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And thats the game.... thanks for coming.
As soon as someone plays the 'God doesn't have to play by the rules' card, there's no going back.
All logic and legitimacy to the discussion just went out the window.

sigh.

That's some dumb shit right there. (In fact it's already been explained earlier in the thread.)

If you're too stupid, or uneducated, to figure out why you're even more retarded than I thought.