FYI

[YendorLootmonkey]

I'm a ranger, like I'm really gonna get more than 3 swings in before Hasten smears me all over Rathe Mountains.

I'm just saying -- and I'm sorry for picking on BadMartigan, he was just a convenient target for proudly claiming he camps AC for MQ rights sales round the clock -- if AC MQ'ers can make their money by locking down the AC camp after they should have moved on, or Pegasus Cloak farmers can make their money locking down Quillmane corpses, why can't someone, in turn, make money off the AC MQ'ers by locking down Hasten? Sounds a bit Abacab-ish, I know. But more than anything, I was just curious how that one is different than the others. Or different than the same solo caster or two continuously handing off and farming the shit out of the FBSS to make plat and having it locked down out of the rest of the server's grasp for the majority of the time?

[Badmartigan]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a ranger, like I'm really gonna get more than 3 swings in before Hasten smears me all over Rathe Mountains.

I'm just saying -- and I'm sorry for picking on BadMartigan, he was just a convenient target for proudly claiming he camps AC for MQ rights sales round the clock -- if AC MQ'ers can make their money by locking down the AC camp after they should have moved on, or Pegasus Cloak farmers can make their money locking down Quillmane corpses, why can't someone, in turn, make money off the AC MQ'ers by locking down Hasten? Sounds a bit Abacab-ish, I know. But more than anything, I was just curious how that one is different than the others. Or different than the same solo caster or two continuously handing off and farming the shit out of the FBSS to make plat and having it locked down out of the rest of the server's grasp for the majority of the time?

You answered your own question.. Igs "abacabbish"...it's classless,tasteless, and serves no purpose other than to punish one user.. If I have the ac camped.. I have a list.. I give the spawn up.. I go sell ring.. Then I come back and wait my turn to camp it again..

[eriamjh]

Originally Posted by Badmartigan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You answered your own question.. Igs "abacabbish"...it's classless,tasteless, and serves no purpose other than to punish one user.. If I have the ac camped.. I have a list.. I give the spawn up.. I go sell ring.. Then I come back and wait my turn to camp it again..

This is so silly.. You move straight from the false premise that there is nothing wrong with a one man half monopoly to talking about how much more classy it is to camp and sell or destroy a rare, no drop item you can't use than to kill a rare spawn NPC you can't quest with.

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It's like.. The ring was made no drop in the first place for a reason and it probably had a lot to do with discouraging this exact kind of behavior.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by eriamjh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so silly.. You move straight from the false premise that there is nothing wrong with a one man half monopoly to talking about how much more classy it is to camp and sell or destroy a rare, no drop item you can't use than to kill a rare spawn NPC you can't quest with.

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It's like.. The ring was made no drop in the first place for a reason and it probably had a lot to do with discouraging this exact kind of behavior.

That was the exact purpose of making things nodrop.

Exploiting the bug in mechanics that allowed people to multiquest is getting around that.

[JackFlash]

This is so silly

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[Chanus]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was the exact purpose of making things nodrop.

Exploiting the bug in mechanics that allowed people to multiquest is getting around that.

It's not really a bug in the mechanics, though. It's been specifically coded to be allowed on this server.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not really a bug in the mechanics, though. It's been specifically coded to be allowed on this server.

Yeah, here.

It's added to mimic that exploit. Trying to say it's not an exploit is outright lying, or simple ignorance.

[Stibe]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, here.

It's added to mimic that exploit. Trying to say it's not an exploit is outright lying, or simple ignorance.

On live it was an exploit. Here it isnt. To call it an exploit when it was coded and everyone was told it was going to work that way, is just plain stupidity.

[eriamjh]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not really a bug in the mechanics, though. It's been specifically coded to be allowed on this server.

The game mechanics in play on this server are intentionally derivative of 1999 classic EQ game mechanics of which this was, and still is, an unintended exploit.

You can go ahead and argue current (PEQ era) game mechanics and intentions but this is a classic server and you will go nowhere quickly. Please just accept the fact that MQ was re-enabled to be classic and NOT to let ass hats farm JBoots 24/7 because they know 4 in 5 classes NEED them eventually.

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by eriamjh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please just accept the fact that MQ was re-enabled to be classic and NOT to let ass hats farm JBoots 24/7 because they know 4 in 5 classes NEED them eventually.

I'm having trouble accepting this as it doesn't make any sense in the context of what you wrote.

Kiting in pretty much all implementations is an unintended exploit. Where's the fuss?

Feign Death pulling is an intended exploit. Where's the fuss?

There are ZERO classes in the game that "NEED" Jboots. It's a convenience to have them, and you pay for that convenience by either waiting in line for the camp or paying for the MQ. The only difference is this is a situation where "It's not fair because I can't get what I want when I want it!".

MQ existed in the game and was never removed, just like the ability to kite and the ability to use FD as a tool for splitting camps. "Unintended exploit" is a meaningless phrase.