Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Originally Posted by Morningbreath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't deal with the exp penalty of Iksars. Period. All it means to me is more reps. More reps means more mindless repetition and to me that makes the game less fun.

Not only that, but lifetaps and lifetap DOTs are practically irresistible so that automatically makes them a part of my DOT stacking spell selection at all levels. I'm going to use them anyway so the fact that an iksar uses them less often is no issue to me. The mana you waste by casting double-save DOTs that get resisted 50% of the time instead of lifetaps is going to slow you down in the long run.

So no, I really don't care about Iksar regen. Maybe for monks and shaman it's a game changer but the exp penalty isn't worth it to me and it's not even a consideration.


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I think you have made the best argument to try red in your first paragraph that I have ever seen.

[NegaStoat]

I'm playing on Blue, and I rolled a Necro just to take it to 51 for splurt and park it for farming or whatever. Mostly I just wanted to level one up to say I did it. I went Dark Elf.

The leveling route I chose consisted of mostly camping 4 or less mobs, every step of the way, focusing on 6 min respawns. I can honestly say being an Iksar wouldn't have helped me up to 46 (where I am right now).

If I had ANY intention of going beyond 51 for Endgame, the regeneration would have been so obvious in how much it helps that there's no question that it's stupid to pass it up.

Being able to build a big (for a cloth caster) HP and Mana pool cheaply was nice being the DE though.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The leveling route I chose consisted of mostly camping 4 or less mobs, every step of the way, focusing on 6 min respawns. I can honestly say being an Iksar wouldn't have helped me up to 46 (where I am right now).

^^ this pretty much. Last 3 mob camp I did on my necro had a good 1min betwixt spawns, had to turn off lich after every cycle cause mana would be full.

This whole debate seems kinda silly, the class by itself is already insanely efficient. The added regen I'm sure is a nifty bonus but its not a game changer like getting Torpor.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole debate seems kinda silly, the class by itself is already insanely efficient. The added regen I'm sure is a nifty bonus but its not a game changer like getting Torpor.

I'd hate to see the comparative health drain for lich and higher on a non-iksar. That in itself makes places like Howling Stones that bit more perilous... and if you like the extra challenge, jump in with both feet...smoothskin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tann]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd hate to see the comparative health drain for lich and higher on a non-iksar. That in itself makes places like Howling Stones that bit more perilous... and if you like the extra challenge, jump in with both feet...smoothskin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only there was a spell line that healed you over time whilst also damaging the target over time for a not terrible dpm that could make up for the health loss...stubbleneedstoshaveskin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Faywind]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only there was a spell line that healed you over time whilst also damaging the target over time for a not terrible dpm that could make up for the health loss...stubbleneedstoshaveskin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those leach spells are terribly inefficient and the worst DPM of all our dots...just sayin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pyrion]

Add to that the out of combat medding where you will quickly need to click off your lich type spell, whereas an iksar can have it on way longer, prolly not needing to click it off at all.

Still, even a non iksar necro is totally viable if you can't stand being iksar. There are disadvantages (faction, xp), so it's not a trvial choice for everyone.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by B4EQWASCOOL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you have made the best argument to try red in your first paragraph that I have ever seen.

playing on red just for the bonus EXP is not a good reason to play red