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10-25-2015, 09:53 AM
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better watch out or iruinedyourday is going to cry to sirken and 'shut this thread down' rofl
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10-25-2015, 10:54 AM
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And the sources for all of these could be found by a simple google search of the graph's title. Since I'm concerned you might not be able to perform this task properly, here are the links along with information on where the source data came from. http://wmbriggs.com/post/7031/ The data are from Grant Duwe, director of research and evaluation at the Minnesota Department of Corrections, from his book Mass Murder in the United States: A History, reported by the Washington Post. http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44126.pdf This comes from the Congressional Research Group, which is a non-partisan part of the Library of Congress, whose job it is to collect data for the Congress of the US. http://crimeresearch.org/2014/06/upd...ing-over-time/ The graph was created by the Crime Prevention Research Center. You can debate the impartiality of this group, but the data comes directly from the National School Safety Center, which is an impartial and non-partisan group. Here is the data source, so that you can confirm the numbers for yourself (not that you'd bother to spend an ounce of energy researching facts that don't conform to your preexisting world view) https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...ZjBjMGY1Yjc3Mw | ||||
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10-25-2015, 12:53 PM
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The fact that mass murders are declining isn't all that important. The meaningful figure is the relatively high rate of mass murders in the US compared to our peers... not that it has all that much to do with guns though. I'd blame the excessive individualism, isolation, and alienation inherent in our culture and economy that breeds mental illness and hopelessness, before I'd blame guns.
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10-25-2015, 01:38 PM
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The thing with your comparison's orrur is they are putting gang related shootings, maphia shootings drug related, CRIME (which yes IS down) and compairing them to school shootings or public shootings where normal kids or beta cuck freaks are taking thier parents and thier own legally bought guns and shooting up the place. THAT type of shooting is on the rise and thats what im talking about.
All i have to say is its fucking ridiculous that you are going to sit there and aruge argue argue about this jesus you are a broken fucking record. | ||
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10-25-2015, 01:41 PM
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10-25-2015, 02:15 PM
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I just can't see how the will to commit a mass murder is in any way tied to gun machismo. I think if you believe gun culture is conducive to mass murder, you'd have to also believe playing violent first person shooters is conducive to mass murder. I've loved Grand Theft Auto my entire life, and I think it's awesome to yank someone out of their car, bust their head open with a machete, and then murder a couple cops and pedestrians in cold blood. Does that mean I have any less respect for cops, pedestrians, and machetes in real life? No. I wouldn't like it if somebody tried to ban my Grand Theft Auto in some rash and ill-advised crusade to stop gun violence, and I think we owe responsible gun enthusiasts the same courtesy. That's not to say I wouldn't be in favor of requiring a robust licensing process and registration associated with firearm ownership, especially when it's something outrageous like a .50 cal sniper rifle or heavy machine gun. Of course, that's not gonna stop me from making fun of some rednecks, because being a gun nut often goes hand in hand with some other idiosyncracies, like hating the federal government, survivalist fantasies, and libertarianism. I mean, look how quickly a little provocation in this thread was able to summon someone like Nocsucow to brag about how he can't wait to shoot his neighbors. I'm pretty sure Noc would still be a sociopath whether he had a gun or not. Why America seems to produce so many people like him, I'll never know. | |||
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10-25-2015, 02:39 PM
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For example, if someone posts about GTA and we talk about GTA and blowing up a building or steeling a car in GTA, we're talking about how much fun a video game is. Gun culture says that people are going to kill you, that you need to defend yourself, that if you dont shoot first then you're going to get shot, that you can solve problems with guns, that its your right to solve problems with guns, that people you disagree with are idiots, that idiots are worthless, that people who are worthless are criminals that criminals should be shot, that all your problems can be solved with a gun. That is talking about real life. They insist that this is a REAL concern. Just like nosc, he trains in the art of self defense to protect himself from REAL life. Not a video game. Its no surprise to me why someone who is already unstable and lives at home and posts anonymously on the internet, gets inspired to do something stupid with a gun in these situations, especially if they are not just surrounded with guns and gun culture on anonymous forums, but they are surrounded with it in their homes schools and social circles. The first responce from anyone who is pro gun, even if they are one of the 'good smart ones who are trained in gun use', even in this thread is, 'you're a fucking idiot pussy in real life'... how can you expect that attitude to NOT encourage bad behavior? nawimsayin? Im just sayin' [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | |||
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10-25-2015, 03:03 PM
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10-25-2015, 03:04 PM
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you say I have no balls, but im the only one here standing in a room full of extremists gun lovers and saying, 'yo u muthafuckas is stupid!'
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10-25-2015, 03:07 PM
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