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Old 01-19-2011, 05:24 PM
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As far as shortly I would consider 5-10 minutes.


But I'm just a peon so what do I know.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:40 PM
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As far as Ishva is concerned I believe there is no need to clear the room spawn to hold the camp, you just gotta be the first one there.

Afking in the room while holding the camp is accepted, as long as you don't have a pet up killing the room spawn.

Clarification on this specific camp would be great.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:08 PM
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In all honesty If your a Shaman, Druid, Necro or any other class that can levitate and you see a person AFK at a spawn such as the one mentioned with a 7 hour pop timer and no PH then just levitate them and do the "Afk Shuffle" and move them out of the room. I think that if you are AFK long enough to let someone move your charcter via levitation and literally tens of minutes of slowly nudging you out of your spot then I feel they earned the right to the spawn.

The rules say nothing about this, and if a GM does get involved you can always take a /time stamped screenshot of the other player not in the room after you push them out. The rules only say you have to be at the spawn and its only taking a spawn if you kill it when it was someone elses camp, theres nothing about moving other players via levitation.

C'mon people, think outside the bun....errr box!
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:09 PM
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And from the above posts, you can see where it gets confusing. The lines are a bit blurry on this issue.

Hassel is right that I cannot know why a person is afk. But having a necro FD and go AFK at a camp and go to bed, then go to work and arrive back at his comp 24 hours or so after he arrived, but a minute before ishva pops. By all some of the logic presented above, he would have full and total rights to the camp because his toon was there for literally 24 hours AND no one can prove he wasn't AFK because he is not required to respond to anything, nor is he required to kill anything. If this is what is accepted, why doesn't any necro who has the timer simply FD AFK there for huge amounts of time? They would never EVER lose the camp. And as a mage, my invis does not last forever. I cannot AFK for hours and hours in the room like a necro could. So I would never even remotely have a chance to be there "before" a necro using FD AFK.

That (in a nutshell) is what the problem is for that group.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:21 PM
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And from the above posts, you can see where it gets confusing. The lines are a bit blurry on this issue.

Hassel is right that I cannot know why a person is afk. But having a necro FD and go AFK at a camp and go to bed, then go to work and arrive back at his comp 24 hours or so after he arrived, but a minute before ishva pops. By all some of the logic presented above, he would have full and total rights to the camp because his toon was there for literally 24 hours AND no one can prove he wasn't AFK because he is not required to respond to anything, nor is he required to kill anything. If this is what is accepted, why doesn't any necro who has the timer simply FD AFK there for huge amounts of time? They would never EVER lose the camp. And as a mage, my invis does not last forever. I cannot AFK for hours and hours in the room like a necro could. So I would never even remotely have a chance to be there "before" a necro using FD AFK.

That (in a nutshell) is what the problem is for that group.
Basically people do. Getting there 12 - 15 hrs early isn't even uncommon. The only reason people don't sit at it 24/7 is because you could be doing other more profitable/fun things. I think that's basically what the GM's have stated. So you're entitled to do exactly that, but really your time isn't best spent there.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:03 PM
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There was a RnF post brought up a while back about someone who was in Paw helping out newbies while waiting for Ishva. Someone else zoned in, said "you aren't standing here," and took the camp.

I believe in the rules it says you can claim multiple camps until someone else/group wants one of them, at which time the person claiming multiple camps gets to pick the one they want while giving the other over to the new person/group.

Although running all over paw while claiming Ishva might be kinda weak (since the above rule was mostly talking about an enchanter claiming frenzy/lord/hand/etc. at the same time), it would also be pretty lame to take a camp from someone who is just buffing lowbies while waiting.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:38 PM
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The way i did it back in the day was call in the zone (camp check) and if no-one called back then i went to the place i wanted to camp. Now if someone was there and AFK, this does not mean that they don’t get the camp or have it. You could be watching TV bathroom or whatever. Now i do believe if you are just AFK at a spawn and you know this person cannot kill the mob that spawns there and is just sitting there HOLDING a camp. Then it is free game. I believe if the person/s that can kill the mob, has to be present and at that location. But being AFK is not justified to taking a camp in no means. Like said in past posts, some spawns take up to 35 to 40 min just to spawn a place holder so if you watch TV you might not always be watching.
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