The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was there, I died 6 times due to guilds taking their first trips alone into ntov. Perhaps you should refrain from making ignorant assumptions that you don't have the information to substantiate. BDA and taken are both to blame for the training. At least taken has apologized and said they wouldn't do it again...

How about you not comment on issues you clearly didn't see from your raid in HoT

I was there,blaming solely BDA when every guild there had FTE AND a train is ignorant and you look even dumber than you did before,keep typing and come back when you move on from childish envy since you are probably in a guild who relies on makeshift alliances to even try anything.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was there,blaming solely BDA when every guild there had FTE AND a train is ignorant and you look even dumber than you did before,keep typing and come back when you move on from childish envy since you are probably in a guild who relies on makeshift alliances to even try anything.

Every guild there had fte? Rampage trained forsaken and then conceded iki for an hour. That hour was spent with taken and BDA training iki and all of the mobs all over tov. Forsaken never even tried to pull iki in that hour rampage conceded due to the trains constantly wiping us during CR. so no, you obviously don't know what happened and you are repeating what you were told by people like chest...

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well you are in a thread based mostly on BDAs inability to admit when they fucked up. So it seems like rnf material to me

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So killing iki somehow makes the train you made disappear?

Makes it even worse if you killed the target after training people, that is a 2 week suspension...

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys trained rampage twice while messing with iki that night as well. Nice try though

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would much rather follow a leader who wipes on velk with 33 lol

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every guild there had fte? Rampage trained forsaken and then conceded iki for an hour. That hour was spent with taken and BDA training iki and all of the mobs all over tov. Forsaken never even tried to pull iki in that hour rampage conceded due to the trains constantly wiping us during CR. so no, you obviously don't know what happened and you are repeating what you were told by people like chest...

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He said taken and bda. How is that blaming solely bda'? I'm honestly curious.

Theres all your BDA blame quotes. And to no life Maner,every guild had FTE atleast once so check your facts when you try to lie again.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theres all your BDA blame quotes. And to no life Maner,every guild had FTE atleast once so check your facts when you try to lie again.

It's not an FTE when iki gets social agro through the train your pullers dropped.. And your quotes show me mentioning BDA and taken so I don't see how I blamed only BDA. The difference is taken has apologized and said it wouldn't happen again. BDA is blaming it on everyone else and taking no responsibility...

Do you even realize how iki is pulled to eashen stairs? There is no train he is split out of a pull just past the doorway. So your idea that every guild had fte and trains is just ridiculous.

Oh, by the way, how did track go yesterday?

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not an FTE when iki gets social agro through the train your pullers dropped.. And your quotes show me mentioning BDA and taken so I don't see how I blamed only BDA. The difference is taken has apologized and said it wouldn't happen again. BDA is blaming it on everyone else and taking no responsibility...

Do you even realize how iki is pulled to eashen stairs? There is no train he is split out of a pull just past the doorway. So your idea that every guild had fte and trains is just ridiculous.

Oh, by the way, how did track go yesterday?

You really believe Taken gives a rats ass? They will do it again in an instant for pixels. Control your worthless recruits and tell them to sit back in safe areas and cubbies and your guild wont be trained. it isnt hard

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really believe Taken gives a rats ass? They will do it again in an instant for pixels. Control your worthless recruits and tell them to sit back in safe areas and cubbies and your guild wont be trained. it isnt hard

What recruit? The person in chests video is a guild coth Mage. Just keep advertising your ignorance. I'm sure it will help prove BDA was right in all of this. And it is yet to be seen if taken really cares or not. Deflecting and accusing them prematurely of being dishonest just to take the focus away from the fact that BDA hasn't even admitted they did anything wrong.

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every guild there had fte? Rampage trained forsaken and then conceded iki for an hour. That hour was spent with taken and BDA training iki and all of the mobs all over tov. Forsaken never even tried to pull iki in that hour rampage conceded due to the trains constantly wiping us during CR. so no, you obviously don't know what happened and you are repeating what you were told by people like chest...

So this is the chain of FTEs that lead to TMO wiping themselves. I also have fraps of this, so don't bother arguing. Cashrip (whoever the heck that is) is the initial aggro on this and pulled Ikatiar into west. This was the first FTE shout in nearly 3 minutes so I'm gonna assume that he was pulled from North here.

BDA (we didn't know where the guy was at the time) attempts to move ent mobs into West and lo and behold, there is a giant pissed off wyvern pathing back to North from ToV West where I believe Taken's force was (Relbaic's engage). Chest then tries valiantly to coax Ikatiar into South where we had a nice present for the guy, but could not lure him in properly.

[Sun Oct 11 20:07:58 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Cashrip! <--- Who?
[Sun Oct 11 20:08:24 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Relbaic!
[Sun Oct 11 20:08:55 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Chest!
[Sun Oct 11 20:09:27 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Elament! <-- Idiot TMO mage who wiped TMO's raid

If you want to blame BDA for having Ikatiar trained onto us and trying to kill the mob instead of playing Tiananmen raid force, go for it. I doubt that kind of logic will get you anywhere.

[Relbaic]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is the chain of FTEs that lead to TMO wiping themselves. I also have fraps of this, so don't bother arguing. Cashrip (whoever the heck that is) is the initial aggro on this and pulled Ikatiar into west. This was the first FTE shout in nearly 3 minutes so I'm gonna assume that he was pulled from North here.

BDA (we didn't know where the guy was at the time) attempts to move ent mobs into West and lo and behold, there is a giant pissed off wyvern pathing back to North from ToV West where I believe Taken's force was (Relbaic's engage). Chest then tries valiantly to coax Ikatiar into South where we had a nice present for the guy, but could not lure him in properly.

[Sun Oct 11 20:07:58 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Cashrip! <--- Who?
[Sun Oct 11 20:08:24 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Relbaic!
[Sun Oct 11 20:08:55 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Chest!
[Sun Oct 11 20:09:27 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Elament! <-- Idiot TMO mage who wiped TMO's raid

If you want to blame BDA for having Ikatiar trained onto us and trying to kill the mob instead of playing Tiananmen raid force, go for it. I doubt that kind of logic will get you anywhere.

Cashrip is in Taken.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is the chain of FTEs that lead to TMO wiping themselves. I also have fraps of this, so don't bother arguing. Cashrip (whoever the heck that is) is the initial aggro on this and pulled Ikatiar into west. This was the first FTE shout in nearly 3 minutes so I'm gonna assume that he was pulled from North here.

BDA (we didn't know where the guy was at the time) attempts to move ent mobs into West and lo and behold, there is a giant pissed off wyvern pathing back to North from ToV West where I believe Taken's force was (Relbaic's engage). Chest then tries valiantly to coax Ikatiar into South where we had a nice present for the guy, but could not lure him in properly.

[Sun Oct 11 20:07:58 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Cashrip! <--- Who?
[Sun Oct 11 20:08:24 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Relbaic!
[Sun Oct 11 20:08:55 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Chest!
[Sun Oct 11 20:09:27 2015] Ikatiar the Venom engages Elament! <-- Idiot TMO mage who wiped TMO's raid

If you want to blame BDA for having Ikatiar trained onto us and trying to kill the mob instead of playing Tiananmen raid force, go for it. I doubt that kind of logic will get you anywhere.

Element got social agro onto iki because BDAs train agroed through a door. A door that doesn't matter if open or closed mobs will still agro through. That agro never would have happened if BDA and Taken hadn't tried to pull iki out of his wing which is the entire point. And it's nice you have logs of one of the wipes. What about the other 3 or 4 that happened because of your trains pathing back?

Lol chests video doesn't show anything other than you guys watching your train path back and agro onto another guild, which is still training. Self incriminating evidence is the best kind I think

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Element got social agro onto iki because BDAs train agroed through a door. A door that doesn't matter if open or closed mobs will still agro through. That agro never would have happened if BDA and Taken hadn't tried to pull iki out of his wing which is the entire point. And it's nice you have logs of one of the wipes. What about the other 3 or 4 that happened because of your trains pathing back?

Lol chests video doesn't show anything other than you guys watching your train path back and agro onto another guild, which is still training. Self incriminating evidence is the best kind I think

I literally just showed you FTE chain proof that it was not BDAs train, but evidently you are too stupid to understand. That was Hoku's fraps. It really seems like you aren't very well informed and are in fact a non-factor in TMO. I will remove myself from this discussion and leave you to your delusions.