If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.prolades.com/amertbl06.htm

more than 50% of those countries have higher % of atheists than the united states.

We could also go with wikipedia, who has several sources for the polling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism



* Uruguay – 17.2% Atheist or Agnostic[38]
* Argentina – 11.3% "indifferent towards religion" (including agnostic and atheists) [39]
* Chile – 8.3% Atheist or Agnostic [40]
* Brazil – 7.4% Non-Religious[41]
* Colombia – 1.9% Non-religious [42]
* Peru – 1.4% Non-religious as of 1993[43]
* Paraguay – 1.1% Non-religious [44]

[skulldudes]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so was arguing woman's suffrage.

hahahahahaha

you can't be real

you're fucking with me

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by skulldudes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hahahahahaha

you can't be real

you're fucking with me

Religion promoted women as objects of man. Also, blacks were inferior and anyone with dark skin were born from satan.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.prolades.com/amertbl06.htm

more than 50% of those countries have higher % of atheists than the united states.

Again I call bullshit. you stated no other country has a higher %pop of people who are religious that the us except for middle east.
Even your own link shows almost every latin america country in fact has a higher population % of people with religious belifs.
Your original statment had nothing to do with % of atheists.and BTW the non on your survey link also includes those who declined to answer
So yet again you have twisted something to fit your idea..Oh wait is this not what you are acusing religion of doing. Hypocrite

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again I call bullshit. you stated no other country has a higher %pop of people who are religious that the us except for middle east.
Even your own link shows almost every latin america country in fact has a higher population % of people with religious belifs.
Your original statment had nothing to do with % of atheists.and BTW the non on your survey link also includes those who declined to answer
So yet again you have twisted something to fit your idea..Oh wait is this not what you are acusing religion of doing. Hypocrite

explain to me how if the other countries have a high % of atheists/buddhists than how can they also have a higher % of religious believers? Unless you are trying to exceed 100%.

Also, people who decline to answer I am willing to bet are atheists but, of course, are too afraid to admit it due to the fact that atheists are persecuted more than any other minority.

[skulldudes]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Religion promoted women as objects of man. Also, blacks were inferior and anyone with dark skin were born from satan.

WHAT? NO, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH THINGS, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly, thank you for proving my point. Without religion, that would be one less reason to have an excuse for bigotry and intolerance. It's just a visage to cover pure and simple, hate for anything different then the opinions of the movers and shakers in the churches.

I think you're missing the point. The bigotry and intolerance wouldn't dissipate with the removal of religion. It would just take on some new manifestation. Ironically, the argument against homosexuality would probably jump to scientific dogma. It's already started. Something along the lines of, "homosexuality doesn't promote reproduction, thus doesn't contribute to evolution, and ultimately hurts the species".

It's a prejudice that has existed for literally thousands of years. It's not going away by removing an institution that is, at a minimum, half a thousand years younger. Combating prejudice against homosexuals, much like combating racial, religious, and gender-based prejudice, relies almost entirely upon education. Again, the problem is ignorance -- not religion.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you're missing the point. The bigotry and intolerance wouldn't dissipate with the removal of religion. It would just take on some new manifestation. Ironically, the argument against homosexuality would probably jump to scientific dogma. It's already started. Something along the lines of, "homosexuality doesn't promote reproduction, thus doesn't contribute to evolution, and ultimately hurts the species".

It's a prejudice that has existed for literally thousands of years. It's not going away by removing an institution that is, at a minimum, half a thousand years younger. Combating prejudice against homosexuals, much like combating racial, religious, and gender-based prejudice, relies almost entirely upon education. Again, the problem is ignorance -- not religion.

Religion promotes education against all those things. Science doesn't perverse it's way into civil rights, unless you can give me an example?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Religion promoted women as objects of man. Also, blacks were inferior and anyone with dark skin were born from satan.

You have got to be kidding me.

Women as objects of man has existed for just about as long as mankind has existed. In fact, there are probably more than a few zoologists that would argue male ownership of woman originated in the animal kingdom, before man even existed.

Ditto for prejudice against blacks -- but don't limit it to blacks. Prejudice against basically every ethnic group but your own was exceptionally prevalent long before organized religion existed. Again, it could be argued that this has roots in the animal kingdom.

You're blaming religion for prejudices and viewpoints that existed literally thousands and thousands of years before the birth of organized religion, and have continued to exist independently of religion. Hell, this stuff existed before the birth of organized society. Male ownership of woman is a defining trait of dozens of African tribes to this very day. They're not exactly Judeo-Christian.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

explain to me how if the other countries have a high % of atheists/buddhists than how can they also have a higher % of religious believers? Unless you are trying to exceed 100%.

Also, people who decline to answer I am willing to bet are atheists but, of course, are too afraid to admit it due to the fact that atheists are persecuted more than any other minority.

Can you not even read the link you posted
cath pro other none
USA - TOTAL POP. 2005 25.0 50.0 17.0 8.0 100% POLL =92% relgious

COSTA RICA 2009 71.0 20.0 2.0 7.0 100% POLL CID-GALLUP, AUG 2009 =93% religious

PANAMA 2003 66.7 24.0 4.3 5.0 100% POLL CID-GALLUP POLL, SEPT 2003 =95% religious
And this isj ust 2 that prove you wrong form your own so called proof

So again tell me that only in the middle east are there countries more religious than the USA
I call bullshit

Still waiting to see what bullshit answer your going to invent for "deadly sin"