If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

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Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Judaism is most certainly *not* the oldest form of anti-gay propaganda. Your ignorance on the matter is showing, and that's not meant as an insult. It's not necessarily common knowledge, I'm simply informing you. The first Jewish anti-gay laws were recorded in the 6th century BC. Assyrians had anti-gay laws recorded in the 11th century BC. And it's highly likely that there was severe persecution against homosexuals in the centuries predating the Assyrian laws, but obviously, the recording of those eras is spotty -- particularly in niche areas like social response to homosexuality. Anti-homosexual sentiment was *not* created by any church or any religion. Neither was male chauvinism. Both were "grandfathered in", if you will.

And if you truly believe that organized religion is brainwashing the American masses into adherence, then why is it that so many religious edicts are flatly ignored? What makes the Church so effective at indoctrinating anti-gay sentiment, while they fail miserably at preventing the use of condoms? Why do so many people oppose abortion, while so many gladly partake in pre-marital sex? The fact is, the Church isn't brainwashing anyone. People take the Bible and use it to confirm their prior-held beliefs, whether or not that's what the Bible actually says. The vast majority of NRA supporters are religious Christians. Do you think Jesus would have been pro-automatic weaponry for the masses? I'm guessing no.

Religion is a red herring. It's about ignorance and dogma. Some people use religion, some people use the Constitution, some people use nationalism. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao managed to do everything you accuse religion of doing -- without religion.

Exactly, thank you for proving my point. Without religion, that would be one less reason to have an excuse for bigotry and intolerance. It's just a visage to cover pure and simple, hate for anything different then the opinions of the movers and shakers in the churches.