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Old 01-14-2011, 04:35 PM
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Okay, reading comprehension.

Try it again.
What do you mean rereading comprehension? YOU literally said there was AS MUCH PROOF OF A GOD as there was not a god, so i want to know what the facts are that show a God at all?
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:36 PM
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What do you mean rereading comprehension? YOU literally said there was AS MUCH PROOF OF A GOD as there was not a god, so i want to know what the facts are that show a God at all?
I'll give you a hint, as you clearly are struggling here.

Are there facts that indicate the non-existence of a god?
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:41 PM
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I'll give you a hint, as you clearly are struggling here.

Are there facts that indicate the non-existence of a god?

The burden of proof is on you, Chanus, not science.

If that was the case, anyone could conjunct their own crazy ideas of whatever imaginary character ever, and we would have to believe them an be tolerant of it, by your logic.

We don't need to proof there isn't a God, the burden lies on religion to prove there is.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:49 PM
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The burden of proof is on you, Chanus, not science.

If that was the case, anyone could conjunct their own crazy ideas of whatever imaginary character ever, and we would have to believe them an be tolerant of it, by your logic.

We don't need to proof there isn't a God, the burden lies on religion to prove there is.
There's no burden on me, I never claimed to believe in a god.

There is no harm in believing or not believing in whatever fanciful imaginings one can construct for him- or herself, yet for some reason so-called atheists can not sleep at night without demanding the existence of a god be proven.

There is no need to prove the existence of a god for people who believe. It serves no purpose; they already have their faith.

Why someone who doesn't believe must so vehemently attack the harmless faith of others is ludicrous.

You may claim faith causes war, genocide, bigotry, or any number of things, but the truth is those are caused by greed. Causality and correlation have distinct meanings. Often people who perpetuate evil upon others use their faith as a crutch, but it is their greed that truly motivates them.

There are as many, if not more people who are faithful and do acts of good... just as there are plenty who have no faith and go acts of good or evil.

Your crusade to prove to anyone with faith that he or she is wrong serves no purpose other than to reaffirm your own choices due to some insecurity in your beliefs or misguided anger toward those you feel have done wrong.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:08 PM
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Your crusade to prove to anyone with faith that he or she is wrong serves no purpose other than to reaffirm your own choices due to some insecurity in your beliefs or misguided anger toward those you feel have done wrong.
I agree with what Chanus said above.

I only find there are 2 times religion becomes an issue and that is when it is taken as fact to make decisions about important things, and the way religion is presented as truth to children (who for no reason of their own should question its authenticity). In either of these cases I feel like it is ok to make a polite reminder on how their religion is not founded on any evidence or logical reasoning.

Otherwise there is no reason anyone should be restricted in believing whatever they want.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:09 PM
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I agree with what Chanus said above.

I only find there are 2 times religion becomes an issue and that is when it is taken as fact to make decisions about important things, and the way religion is presented as truth to children (who for no reason of their own should question its authenticity). In either of these cases I feel like it is ok to make a polite reminder on how their religion is not founded on any evidence or logical reasoning.

Otherwise there is no reason anyone should be restricted in believing whatever they want.
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:18 PM
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There's no burden on me, I never claimed to believe in a god.

There is no harm in believing or not believing in whatever fanciful imaginings one can construct for him- or herself, yet for some reason so-called atheists can not sleep at night without demanding the existence of a god be proven.

There is no need to prove the existence of a god for people who believe. It serves no purpose; they already have their faith.

Why someone who doesn't believe must so vehemently attack the harmless faith of others is ludicrous.

You may claim faith causes war, genocide, bigotry, or any number of things, but the truth is those are caused by greed. Causality and correlation have distinct meanings. Often people who perpetuate evil upon others use their faith as a crutch, but it is their greed that truly motivates them.

There are as many, if not more people who are faithful and do acts of good... just as there are plenty who have no faith and go acts of good or evil.

Your crusade to prove to anyone with faith that he or she is wrong serves no purpose other than to reaffirm your own choices due to some insecurity in your beliefs or misguided anger toward those you feel have done wrong.
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