Bard kiting

[Qtip]

Originally Posted by xbo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't matter , you are sharing the xp with 4 other people.

Ya but the 4 other people are giving you a bigger bonus, which equals more exp per kill. Do you understand how exp bonus works here?

[xbo]

Originally Posted by Qtip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya but the 4 other people are giving you a bigger bonus, which equals more exp per kill. Do you understand how exp bonus works here?

Do you understand how grouping and experience works? It doesn't sound like it. Do you understand sharing 1 mobs experience between 6 people and 2?

[Qtip]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=148678

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Qtip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya but the 4 other people are giving you a bigger bonus, which equals more exp per kill. Do you understand how exp bonus works here?

With server bonus you get +50%
With group member added you get +40%


100 base experience
+50 for server
+40 for group member
= total of 190 Exp, or 85 exp per person

The bard is saying he would rather get 150 exp per kill than the 85 exp per kill.

If you take that same 100 and add in 40 for 5 other group members it is 350 total exp, divided by 6, is just 58 exp per person.

If the group kills mobs just as fast as the guy soloing would, it is not beneficial for the person to be grouped.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With server bonus you get +50%
With group member added you get +40%


100 base experience
+50 for server
+40 for group member
= total of 190 Exp, or 85 exp per person

The bard is saying he would rather get 150 exp per kill than the 85 exp per kill.

If you take that same 100 and add in 40 for 5 other group members it is 350 total exp, divided by 6, is just 58 exp per person.

If the group kills mobs just as fast as the guy soloing would, it is not beneficial for the person to be grouped.

Great post. Deserves highlight.

The killrate difference between a 3-4 man PBAOE group and a solo bard. May still be worth adding 2-3 PB AOE'ers into the group versus a solo bards killrate...

But I have no math on it.

[xbo]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great post. Deserves highlight.

The killrate difference between a 3-4 man PBAOE group and a solo bard. May still be worth adding 2-3 PB AOE'ers into the group versus a solo bards killrate...

But I have no math on it.

I think its worth 1-2 but jamming 6 dudes in a grp because you don't understand everquest is dumb.

[Bromgard]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100 base experience
+50 for server
+40 for group member
= total of 190 Exp, or 85 exp per person

Slight nitpick. With a group of two people, the bonus is +80 (not including server bonus), = total exp of 230, or 115 per person.

So your calculations are slightly off here, in addition to your other efficiency table. Which means adding group members is significantly less of a whack to individual exp gains as you've painted here, though still important to note that individual exp gains will always be LESS per mob in a group than solo (probably the most common misunderstanding I've seen on Red).

Source: in Derubs post, he says the total exp bonus in full grp is 290%. If we subtract the server bonus, thats 240%/6 = 40% per group member, including the group leader.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Bromgard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Slight nitpick. With a group of two people, the bonus is +80 (not including server bonus), = total exp of 230, or 115 per person.

So your calculations are slightly off here, in addition to your other efficiency table. Which means adding group members is significantly less of a whack to individual exp gains as you've painted here, though still important to note that individual exp gains will always be LESS per mob in a group than solo (probably the most common misunderstanding I've seen on Red).

Source: in Derubs post, he says the total exp bonus in full grp is 290%. If we subtract the server bonus, thats 240%/6 = 40% per group member, including the group leader.

So the group bonus from 1 to 2 people goes from 0-80% then +40% per member after that or does a solo person get the server 50% bonus plus the initial 40% bonus?

[Bromgard]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the group bonus from 1 to 2 people goes from 0-80% then +40% per member after that or does a solo person get the server 50% bonus plus the initial 40% bonus?

That's a good question. I'm not entirely sure, but based on how it is worded it seems to imply that the 40% bonus isn't applied unless there is a group present.

I could probably test this by killing a white solo on blue vs. on red and see if the difference is 50% or 90%. Will report back when I've had a chance to do that.